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Can anyone recommend me a game with live service but long-lived?
I'm telling you right now, none Destiny/Warframe/The First Descendant

My only requirements are a stable number of players, no pay to win, preferably a looter shooter live service
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warframe is pretty good but its mainly due to its not as greed driven as the other 2 and its not as combedetive since its a pve focused game so you dont have p2w as an issue on the list . destiny 2 basicly hit the sweet spot of a fallacy ppl invested to much time and money into it . the first descendant good concept good looking and was kinda fun bit like a mix of the other 2 but its run by nexxon who is quite known for shutting down games. you did forget the few mmos alive those are live service done right for otherwise the mmo flops but its also a bussnies strat to buy a mmo with a decent population buy the studio also when milk it to death and move on
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Originally posted by lailaamell:
warframe is pretty good but its mainly due to its not as greed driven as the other 2 and its not as combedetive since its a pve focused game so you dont have p2w as an issue on the list . destiny 2 basicly hit the sweet spot of a fallacy ppl invested to much time and money into it . the first descendant good concept good looking and was kinda fun bit like a mix of the other 2 but its run by nexxon who is quite known for shutting down games

warframe had the worst ban politicy i ever seen in gaming perma bans for chat xd that all from my side.
Originally posted by Wordcraft:
Originally posted by lailaamell:
warframe is pretty good but its mainly due to its not as greed driven as the other 2 and its not as combedetive since its a pve focused game so you dont have p2w as an issue on the list . destiny 2 basicly hit the sweet spot of a fallacy ppl invested to much time and money into it . the first descendant good concept good looking and was kinda fun bit like a mix of the other 2 but its run by nexxon who is quite known for shutting down games

warframe had the worst ban politicy i ever seen in gaming perma bans for chat xd that all from my side.
they have a 0 tolerance policy want to say what ever go to bdo honestly i suspect moderation there went insane. they moderate basicly with the assumption you read the tos wich 99% never does
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looter shooter sounds like borderlands
Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡:
looter shooter sounds like borderlands

it not live service games.
The Division 1 & 2
I think Guild Wars is still going, Elder Scrolls is as well, or You can always try Conan Exiles.
Originally posted by steven1mac:
I think Guild Wars is still going, Elder Scrolls is as well, or You can always try Conan Exiles.

it more like mmorpg, or rather I don't want to delve into it again as a child, I've been in it too long
Originally posted by Average Ground Stepper /|\:
The Division 1 & 2

This tactical aspect puts me off a bit.
"they moderate basicly with the assumption you read the tos wich 99% never does"
-There's no reason to ever read a TOS, EULA, or whatever other pile of gibberish a company wants you to read.
Originally posted by Drain:
"they moderate basicly with the assumption you read the tos wich 99% never does"
-There's no reason to ever read a TOS, EULA, or whatever other pile of gibberish a company wants you to read.

Even if they unbanned me, I wouldn't want to go back to this tragic game
I loved firearms in New World. It had headshot mechanics and I loved headshotting corrupted NPC's and looting their corpses.

Unfortunately the crafting system sucks. It's so grindy and I think the game is bascially dead. Amazon botched the release and I don't think it's going to live long.

Which is sad because it has some great lore and you can tell the combat system has potential. I like the mix of different abilities each weapon set has. Killing and looting NPC's feels rewarding. But that grind. The grind is pain.
I can't think of any MMO similar to New World.

Guild Wars 2 does have a rifle weapon and you can shoot NPC's but it has no headshot mechanic. It's not an MMO FPS It's just a standard "select the enemy and click your skill bar" combat like you would find in World of Warcarft or any other bog standard MMO.
Years ago there was a MMO FPS called Crimecraft which had awesome gameplay and I loved doing challenges where you would spawn on a map filled with enemy NPC's and have to clear the map for rewards. There was a semi-auto rifle that I loved and got really good with it.

It got shut down. I forget why.

MMO FPS seems like it's hard to pull off for some reason.
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