Contest it with the bots in steam support? They might see a blank reason as a mistake or abuse

Originally posted by EASY PETE:

Contest it with the bots in steam support? They might see a blank reason as a mistake or abuse

I did. They said they won't contest the decision. The moderator decision is final. Told me to contact EA.

Originally posted by EASY PETE:

Contest it with the bots in steam support? They might see a blank reason as a mistake or abuse

Steam only act if a community ban or a ban on their own steam section is seen as unwarranted or unnecessary.

This means that game developers and their moderators are free to act however they want, however corrupt they want within their own game hub discussions on steam.
(Often using those infamous "Community Moderators" that are now only moderating game discussions not all of Steam)

The only time Steam would take action is if a game hub ban resulted in a community ban on account of having numerous bans across different hubs in whatever time steam specifies and they decide that the game discussion ban is adequate for that game alone, and that the community ban is not necessary.

Make sense?

Originally posted by 𝒦𝒾𝓂𝒾𝓀𝑜:

Originally posted by EASY PETE:

Contest it with the bots in steam support? They might see a blank reason as a mistake or abuse

Steam only act if a community ban or a ban on their own steam section is seen as unwarranted or unnecessary.

This means that game developers and their moderators are free to act however they want, however corrupt they want within their own game hub discussions on steam.

The only time Steam would take action is if a game hub ban resulted in a community ban on account of having numerous bans across different hubs in whatever time steam specifies and they decide that the game discussion ban is adequate for that game alone, and that the community ban is not necessary.

Make sense?

I actually had that automatic ban for all communities at some point. Due to multiple bans similar to what I describe in OP. That tells you how corrupt and censored the forums are. Steam support did remove the global ban but not the specific bans.

All game forums are operated by hired moderators, they are nothing to do with VALVE or Steam or any personnel, the only time one of the personnel step in is when a message is break the overall Steam forums rules, otherwise other things can be banned for whatever reason the hired people care for, a sad reality.

Originally posted by Tazor:

Originally posted by 𝒦𝒾𝓂𝒾𝓀𝑜:

Steam only act if a community ban or a ban on their own steam section is seen as unwarranted or unnecessary.

This means that game developers and their moderators are free to act however they want, however corrupt they want within their own game hub discussions on steam.

The only time Steam would take action is if a game hub ban resulted in a community ban on account of having numerous bans across different hubs in whatever time steam specifies and they decide that the game discussion ban is adequate for that game alone, and that the community ban is not necessary.

Make sense?

I actually had that automatic ban for all communities at some point. Due to multiple bans similar to what I describe in OP. That tells you how corrupt and censored the forums are. Steam support did remove the global ban but not the specific bans.

Because they cannot remove game specific hub bans, where you would be banned from interacting with game sections for their discusisons, screenshots etc etc.

Those areas are entirely moderated (or not) by their own appointed (or not) moderators

It's pretty well known at this point and for the most part it's the group of Community Moderators who still have the group on Steam but aren't officially moderating Steam any more, they like their power and corruption so they stick in these game discussions to moderate a few games each.

Steam's position is that they can moderate however they see fit within their game hubs so if they want to kick someone out of their discussions, remove their ability to post screenshots and artworks for that game on that hub, then they can do that. Steam cannot do anything about it.

Although, I doubt Steam would really do anything differently given how the Off-Topic is moderated or unmoderated with great prejudice and selectiveness that seemingly prefers those far right beliefs.

Of course this is just my opinion on the topic based on my experiences. Everyone will have their own opinions and experiences, but I don't see EA being run by Saudi to be any different that what we're already experiencing on every game hub that uses community moderators
(referring as mentioned to the group of them that used to moderate officially on all of steam discussions and are known for corruption - without naming names of course, they know who they are - and no longer do so officially and instead only for selected developers circles that they wormed their way into)

Whether it's strict religious believes, or woke ideology, I don't want either to have any large influence over the content and creations of others.

You can talk about it here, they can only ban you from hubs, they can't ban you from the rest of the forums. You get automatic community bans if you get a bunch of game hub bans in a row, but that's an automated feature of Steam and it seems they removed that when you contacted them.

I think what usually might get one sanctioned is when one makes sweeping offensive statements against a people, rather than the regime that is the cause for concern.

Did you not have internet for the past few years or something?
Stating facts has been a capital offense for a while now.

Originally posted by -OrLoK- Слава Україн:

I think what usually might get one sanctioned is when one makes sweeping offensive statements against a people, rather than the regime that is the cause for concern.

If that were the case then most of the off-topic would be banned for anti-LGBTQ+ and accusing everyone of being left-wing despite most LGBTQ+ not supporting left or right political parties, as you've mentioned. No to the tories, no to labour, no to the lib dem's, reform are extreme beyond doubt and green party have branches that are also a big no.

There are flaws in every area of politics that would make them unfit to govern a modern society, and that goes for all countries.

I suspect that this is also the case in Saudia Arabia and why I don't jump to conclusions, I prefer to see things from the outside perspective, with everything in view and make my own assessments on the facts of what's available and how it affects me and my community.

I don't think Saudi being in control of EA will change much, EA and Bioware have a history of very corrupt behaviour, long before Saudi was involved dating back to 2015 from my evidence (SWTOR in particular, filled with hate and discrimination towards women and LGBTQ)

Of course little of this was really present online until around 2013-2015, when the discrimination, hate and extremism really started to pick up speed and you couldn't go a single day without some slurs or misgendering happened. One could argue that it's mostly newgens perpetrating these acts online, and while true the internet did change drastically around 2013 (when newgens were of age to use the internet in mass) that doesn't mean that they're the ones responsible. Everybody is responsible for the situation we find ourselves in, humanity has ultimately failed in being humanity.

Originally posted by 𝒦𝒾𝓂𝒾𝓀𝑜:

Originally posted by -OrLoK- Слава Україн:

I think what usually might get one sanctioned is when one makes sweeping offensive statements against a people, rather than the regime that is the cause for concern.

If that were the case then most of the off-topic would be banned for anti-LGBTQ+ and accusing everyone of being left-wing despite most LGBTQ+ not supporting left or right political parties, as you've mentioned. No to the tories, no to labour, no to the lib dem's, reform are extreme beyond doubt and green party have branches that are also a big no.

There are flaws in every area of politics that would make them unfit to govern a modern society, and that goes for all countries.

I suspect that this is also the case in Saudia Arabia and why I don't jump to conclusions, I prefer to see things from the outside perspective, with everything in view and make my own assessments on the facts of what's available and how it affects me and my community.

I don't think Saudi being in control of EA will change much, EA and Bioware have a history of very corrupt behaviour, long before Saudi was involved dating back to 2015 from my evidence (SWTOR in particular, filled with hate and discrimination towards women and LGBTQ)

Of course little of this was really present online until around 2013-2015, when the discrimination, hate and extremism really started to pick up speed and you couldn't go a single day without some slurs or misgendering happened. One could argue that it's mostly newgens perpetrating these acts online, and while true the internet did change drastically around 2013 (when newgens were of age to use the internet in mass) that doesn't mean that they're the ones responsible. Everybody is responsible for the situation we find ourselves in, humanity has ultimately failed in being humanity.

It’s just people treating everywhere like 4chan. The point of 4chan is a place where you are:

Completely anonymous (unless you use a name which is frowned upon)
As a result, basically equal, it’s not “x user with bad take” it’s “anon with bad take”

The language is very harsh as a result but it doesn’t really matter because everyone is basically just anon. It ironically also removes any real problem with dogpiling or wrongthink as well.

4chan also tend to have at least a few anons who are actually extremely knowledgeable.

But then some people realised others get triggered easily by doing this, so now you have people doing it outside of 4chan.

Also, 4chan anons usually ignore extremely obvious bait like deliberately going into a gaming community and going “hey i played 3 games this year and they didn’t run on my gtx780 - gaming is DEAD”.

whereas here every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ apparently has to remind the OP that indie games exist.

Wow I never knew. I’m sure OP is now enlightened.