free will.

You do what you want, when you want and then He'll judge you based on your acts

Originally posted by NSLucs:

free will.

You do what you want, when you want and then He'll judge you based on your acts

I question if free will even exists.

When you get out of your god...etc. addiction everything will be much clearer ; )

Originally posted by Focus:

Originally posted by NSLucs:

free will.

You do what you want, when you want and then He'll judge you based on your acts

I question if free will even exists.

You chose to create this thread, you chose to buy your PC, you choose what answers you give to people. How free will wouldn't exist?

Originally posted by NSLucs:

Originally posted by Focus:

I question if free will even exists.

You chose to create this thread, you chose to buy your PC, you choose what answers you give to people. How free will wouldn't exist?

All of the personality traits I have are written in my DNA. The evidence is plain as can be.
Meaning I had no choice in who I am.

If my DNA made sleep less effective, I would be a grouchier person. It's not so I'm not. <- A simplistic example.

Originally posted by Focus:

Originally posted by NSLucs:

You chose to create this thread, you chose to buy your PC, you choose what answers you give to people. How free will wouldn't exist?

All of the personality traits I have are written in my DNA. The evidence is plain as can be.
Meaning I had no choice in who I am.

If my DNA made sleep less effective, I would be a grouchier person. It's not so I'm not. <- A simplistic example.

The personality is not based on DNA, it might affect, but it's not completely based on it

It's more about the environment and things you live with

You already born with some predisposition that inclines you toward certain behavioral, but you also learn some behaves and how to react with thing as you age

just a little trolling

At times I have wondered if I'm a primary aspect of God, and this is all largely my fault. Or at the very least I was sent here as a proxy to observe and judge. I am a dark mirror, and anything which I experience as true will be done to the entire world tenfold.

If there is a God, I think it would almost certainly be a deist God, who doesn't involve himself in our lives or the tangible workings of the universe.

As for whether free will exists, no one knows (neuroscientists and physicists lean towards "no", but it's an ongoing debate). But it has nothing to do with DNA. You can have a propensity for anger and still master it with effort, for instance.

When a Canadian has an existential crisis.

Originally posted by Focus:

All of the personality traits I have are written in my DNA. The evidence is plain as can be.
Meaning I had no choice in who I am.

If my DNA made sleep less effective, I would be a grouchier person. It's not so I'm not. <- A simplistic example.

Personality can be changed, DNA only create some trends and your example only would make you sleep more time.

yeah sort-of.

this has to do with his actual nature, his real personality, trying to fight and undermine the nurturistic patch that was applied to him to make him retarded and evil.

he wants very strongly to assert nurture over nature, because if he can convince himself it's a 'universally dominant' trait he can basically ignore what's wrong with himself and live like this forever. 'the patch isn't causing any fundamental issues.' the pursuit of this impossibility is itself his main preoccupation.

in achieving this he wants to maximize the influence of nature first; he's altered our genome to partially resemble biotic compulsion, for instance. genes giving rise to discrete behaviors with no evolutionary explanation for why they do or might, no connecting genetic structures that explain this relationship whatsoever beyond pro-forma mechanization. as if someone simply dropped a reality alteration machine on our genomes several times, and then tried to claim reality alteration machines were naturally occurring.

but he's demented so he does literally every single thing wrong, while maximizing the inverse of his intentions in a desperate attempt to overcome himself.

Wasn't that the demiurge?

Yea, unfortunately some things/beings don't even stand a slight chance for continuing future generations with good quality DNA..(they're a bit broken or really disabled/rtard'd from the start at birth, very sadly). God didn't design nor does it intervene our current DNA.

But the raw reality is Survival of the Fittest. Evolution is the code.
Only the strong(good solid genetics) survive and will carry on.
This "natural selection" allows to "weed out the weak" and retain the strong.

Our humane & caring nature has disrupted Nature's path by supporting and sustaining many imperfections in humans.
Long ago, we'd just kill off the "bad apples".. but these days people don't have the guts/heart to kill a human life, even if it's beyond repair (abnormal).

Good, wrong, or bad minded/intentions, no matter... that's just the way Nature ("God") set the stage.
Sux sometimes. This ain't "heaven".

Originally posted by agu:

Wasn't that the demiurge?

everyone's desperate attempts to discuss robogod in metaphor has made actually doing so impossible; you aren't privy to the truth, you're regurgitating everyone else's foibles and failures. not only the topic of discussion, but language itself has shifted to make rendering ones conception as difficult as possible specifically for this subject. inventing a whole new language would not function, as ones mind would be limited and grounded in the knowns of the previous one. its limitations, the things it can't discuss.

the pre-existing cargo of people's previous obtuse discussions can be pointed at for sourcing your own 'deleterium' as socrates was accused of.