If Trump needs a reason to threaten anyone ...

Oh no. Anyway, to the block list you go, lol.

Do we REALLY need the F-35? is a legitimate question for Canada. The F-35 was a choice made partly based on our tight relationship with our former close ally.

When you really think about it and take realistic threats into consideration, an european fighter could do the job just fine. And for a lower price.

Canada has been surviving for over a decade by charging the USA excessive tariffs, President Trump is remedying that issue.

Originally posted by Emperor Chungus III:

Oh no. Anyway, to the block list you go, lol.

It's not an Airport Departure Lounge. You don't need to announce your departure.
If you wanted to block; you were never my intended audience. ;)

Originally posted by LeftIsBest-James:

Originally posted by Emperor Chungus III:

Oh no. Anyway, to the block list you go, lol.

It's not an Airport Departure Lounge. You don't need to announce your departure.
If you wanted to block; you were never my intended audience. ;)

Yea, but I want to, lol.

Originally posted by Thermal Lance:

Do we REALLY need the F-35? is a legitimate question for Canada. The F-35 was a choice made partly based on our tight relationship with our former close ally.

When you really think about it and take realistic threats into consideration, an european fighter could do the job just fine. And for a lower price.

Canada has obligations to fulfill to nato. So yes. Canada has had the same f18s literally 50 years old now. I think it's time.

But you make a good point, why invest in military when we know damn well usa will come save our ass anyway. But I think that's trumps beef when he says the US is being taken advantage of.

Originally posted by Intelligent Jew Businessman:

Originally posted by Thermal Lance:

Do we REALLY need the F-35? is a legitimate question for Canada. The F-35 was a choice made partly based on our tight relationship with our former close ally.

When you really think about it and take realistic threats into consideration, an european fighter could do the job just fine. And for a lower price.

Canada has obligations to fulfill to nato. So yes. Canada has had the same f18s literally 50 years old now. I think it's time.

But you make a good point, why invest in military when we know damn well usa will come save our ass anyway. But I think that's trumps beef when he says the US is being taken advantage of.

Not every nato country uses the F-35. Also, give us a couple of years. We are already increasing millitary spending. Which is something I always agreed with. Just not going to be the kind of change that happens overnight,

"art of the deal" guy being mocked by the rest of the world while he alienates US allies and jacks prices up lolol

WINNING!

Originally posted by Emperor Chungus III:

Oh no. Anyway, to the block list you go, lol.

Originally posted by Emperor Chungus III:

Originally posted by LeftIsBest-James:

It's not an Airport Departure Lounge. You don't need to announce your departure.
If you wanted to block; you were never my intended audience. ;)

Yea, but I want to, lol.

Wow, that was fast.. and incredibly weak.

Originally posted by LeftIsBest-James:

Originally posted by Emperor Chungus III:

Yea, but I want to, lol.

Wow, that was fast.. and incredibly weak.

It's nice and all but did you create this topic to engage with it or not?

This plane is not suitable for Canada by any stretch anyways. Too expensive and maintenance-heavy. Canada needs defense and stand-off capability. As it stands, aside from a few legacy-Hornets, we have no other effective air defenses to speak of.

The smarter purchase could have been the F-15EX. It can fly high enough and fast enough to threaten everything, carrying up to 12 AIM-120Ds, and also JASSMs for precision ground strikes, with the latest JASSM being developed having a range of up to 1000 km.

This can allow it to be effective at range, as opposed to being stealthy. Canada doesn't need to waste money on the more expensive plane, designed for a more narrowed, specific role.

Originally posted by Thermal Lance:

Do we REALLY need the F-35? is a legitimate question for Canada. The F-35 was a choice made partly based on our tight relationship with our former close ally.

When you really think about it and take realistic threats into consideration, an european fighter could do the job just fine. And for a lower price.

No.

Foolish of the DND to overlook the F-15EX. I am Canadian too. Veteran. Served 8 years.

Originally posted by Thermal Lance:

Originally posted by LeftIsBest-James:

Wow, that was fast.. and incredibly weak.

It's nice and all but did you create this topic to engage with it or not?

It's a free world.
But I know people who start the convo with 'block' are larpy, and cost/benefit wise, I get more value engagement from people who engage: self-selecting economics.

What is Trump going to do? Reanimate Mathew Perry and send Black Ships to force them to trade?