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Alxndr 27 Oct @ 1:57pm
The stock market is going up forever and ever amen
We are now in a 16 year bull run with virtually no serious long term bear markets. Obviously there's been flash crashes and dips along the way but these have been fleeting and didn't last long at all. The money quickly floods back in.

I know people will have their opinions about whether we're in a bubble or a crash is coming etc but in the last 10 years has been nearly 15%. To imagine an economy compounding at 15% year on year for 10 years is almost unthinkable.

Individual companies can pull that off for sure it's normal, but for the entire market to do that? Almost unheard of considering the average return is usually around the 9% mark.

Either one of two things will happen.

1. The market will enter a deep bear market for several long painful years to compensate for the stupid growth we've seen over the last 16 years.

2. Money isn't real anymore and the market will just keep going up forever and ever until every company in the S&P500 has valuations in the tens of trillions of dollars.
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Thadeus 27 Oct @ 1:59pm 
But I thought Trump was going to destroy the stock market.

Are you implying that mainstream media lied?!
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Zogtar 27 Oct @ 2:00pm 
The factory must grow.

When we start mining maximum profits, the factory must expand into space. Then expand into all dimensions.

The factory must grow.

Infinite monetization.
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xBCxRangers 27 Oct @ 2:01pm 
Always cracking the bubbly on wall st as main street gets clobbered, and then it ALL comes crashing down, having main street bail out wall street.

Socialism for The Rich :steamfacepalm:
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Triple G 27 Oct @ 2:02pm 
I find this super great, because it means we all get more wage. Our living standard will also ever go higher. Because it´s all about Christian values and sharing is caring.
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Alxndr 27 Oct @ 2:11pm 
Originally posted by Triple G:
I find this super great, because it means we all get more wage. Our living standard will also ever go higher. Because it´s all about Christian values and sharing is caring.

Actually it's proven that a company will usually almost increase salary by the minimal amount their employers will accept regardless of profit. If Walmart made 5% profit or 15% profit in 2025 they would still only give their employees a 3% pay rise for example.

They'll never think "we made 15% this year, let's treat our employees to a nice 10% pay rise".
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HypersleepyNaputunia 27 Oct @ 2:23pm 
Party like its 1929
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Gibs Ahoy! 27 Oct @ 2:25pm 
Most companies aren't publicly traded. In fact, there are more public ETFs than public companies in the US stock market.


Anyway, I'm in the "selective bubble" camp regarding stocks. Some stuff is just obviously overpriced. Will they grow into the valuation? Can't say it's impossible, but y'know.
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Despiser 27 Oct @ 2:32pm 
More likely closer to the second option. One advantage of rich people controlling markets is they won't allow it to fail. It stopped being based on business fundamentals ever since the meltdown of 2008. Notice how quickly it recovered after covid. I made a small fortune on both those occassions. There is always the chance of a repeat of the 1920s where we will need WW3 to bring us out, if we survive, but somehow I doubt it.
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Triple G 27 Oct @ 2:33pm 
Originally posted by Alxndr:
Actually it's proven that a company will usually almost increase salary by the minimal amount their employers will accept regardless of profit. If Walmart made 5% profit or 15% profit in 2025 they would still only give their employees a 3% pay rise for example.

They'll never think "we made 15% this year, let's treat our employees to a nice 10% pay rise".
Hmm. Sounds like they´re unfair. Hadn´t thought that. Like: don´t they say that they´re actually fair and have a place in society, because everybody profits from the gains? If they lie, they would end up in hell i suppose. Don´t they think about their afterlife? Like, even if You live like god on earth - it doesn´t prevent the afterlife. It´s very short sighted, no?
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