Religion as a whole is incompatible the modern world.

There's nothing Islamophobic about citing what Islamists say they want to do to the west or pointing out numerous times they've committed terrorist attacks in an effort to promote those goals.

Also, there are many nations around the word dealing with Islamic terrorists that don't care at all for Israel. Israel is a very small piece on the global stage when it comes to terrorism from these groups and has nothing to do with it at all in the majority of cases.

Originally posted by EndangeredPootisBird:

Religion as a whole is incompatible the modern world.

the modern world worships money just fine

seen this a few weeks ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXoB1R0nvMw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZHUBR945IE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtS14ZO8Q-E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlPMcXEzZ3w

have a great day peeps

Zionism is belief Jews have a right to live in Israel, a Zionist is not an Islamophobe.

^ True

Getting rocketed causes i slam o phobia sometimes

Both are problematic.

Originally posted by Warlock:

Zionism is belief Jews have a right to live in Israel, a Zionist is not an Islamophobe.

Also supported by the fact that 1/6 of the citizens of Israel are Arab Muslims.

I have no prescriptive statement to make about this conflict. It's not in the hands of Westerners anymore, nor do I think it's likely the people there are willing to change course. Les jeux sont faits.

Originally posted by EndangeredPootisBird:

Religion as a whole is incompatible the modern world.

Religion doesn't play nearly as big a role there as people think. The original Zionist project was largely secular in nature, and so was the Palestinian resistance until the rise of Hamas.

It's all about ever-stacking ethnic grievances.

Originally posted by Warlock:

Zionism is belief Jews have a right to live in Israel, a Zionist is not an Islamophobe.

Zionism.
WW1. -> Leauge of Nations. Balfour Declaration of 1917
6 million souls starving in Russia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KaMynWTvhM

1933 Hitler becomes Chanceler -> Haavara Agreement

1945 UN Created -> 1948 Recognition and creation of the state of Israel.

Zionism is a group of people deciding they would rather their true home be on earth rather than a heavenly one.

a serpent has both a head and a tail

Originally posted by Siluva:

Both are problematic.

Zionism is not problematic, radical Zionism or ultra-Zionism is. A belief that people have right to live in Israel is not problematic.

Islamophobia is problematic because it's hostile towards Islam's believers. Islam, Judaism, and Christianity worship same God, but these believers disagree on his law. Common ground is a better answer to problems than favoring either side.

Originally posted by admiral1018:

Originally posted by Warlock:

Zionism is belief Jews have a right to live in Israel, a Zionist is not an Islamophobe.

Also supported by the fact that 1/6 of the citizens of Israel are Arab Muslims.

Also the Bedouin tribes that supported Israeli Independence. Israel is also home to Russians, Ukrainians, European travelers, and more. In comparison some countries in Middle East like Saudi Arabia are hostile towards immigrant workers or outright enslave them.