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Why is Lolicon specifically hated by many?
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It does not make sense to me. Who does it hurt? I just it's comparable to saying that G.T.A. would make you a terrorist, and while it may appeal in rare cases, majority does not seem to. Most people can differentiate fiction and reality, and in video games for example do things that are often illegal or impossible in the real world. I don't see the logic with drawing a line in the sand for only one part. What someone with their own life within their own sphere should not matter to anything really in my opinion. And for the last, it was a starter of large part of the new inspired and style for H-stuff.

RU:
Привет, мой вопрос на сегодня: почему lolicon так ненавидят? Это чушь. Я не вижу ни одного реального пострадавшего. Мне просто кажется, что аргументы оппонента сравнимы с утверждением, что GTA сделает тебя террористом. Не вижу логики в том, чтобы проводить черту только для одной стороны. На мой взгляд, то, что человек живёт своей жизнью, в рамках своей сферы, не должно иметь никакого значения. И, наконец, это положило начало значительной части нового вдохновения и стиля для хентая.
Originally posted by salva早晨享用的咖啡:
1.) they are projecting and they themselves see it as inherently sexual. they don't see it as just people liking cute things.

2.) they see social stigma around it, so they follow other people in disliking it. or even protest against it for virtue signalling.

3.) misinformed and think it is another word for cheese pizza

westerners get upset at cute characters in china, japan, korea media and video games often.
call us pedo or creepy. but asia has healthy mindset on it. and can distinguish fiction from reality. much lower sexual abuse cases of minors compared to western countries. so western countries insult asia over it is pure hypocrisy.

in the western countries fathers cannot even be seen with their young daughters in public anymore. LOL
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tl;dr: Just seems hypocritical and irrational in perspective with other morals that it gets to widespread hate, and it's more about the "I" that doesn't like it, than actual sense
Because it's creepy and disgusting.
People can try to spin it however they like with mental gymnastics. It's ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up and the people who like that sort of ♥♥♥♥ are ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up.
praying for the OT userbase to not discuss porn with the 15 year old child
The FBI and Interpol are going to be watching this thread closely.
How do I delete someone else's thread?
Originally posted by Sixtyfivekills:
How do I delete someone else's thread?
you use the report button
Because it is nasty.
The author of this thread has indicated that this post answers the original topic.
1.) they are projecting and they themselves see it as inherently sexual. they don't see it as just people liking cute things.

2.) they see social stigma around it, so they follow other people in disliking it. or even protest against it for virtue signalling.

3.) misinformed and think it is another word for cheese pizza

westerners get upset at cute characters in china, japan, korea media and video games often.
call us pedo or creepy. but asia has healthy mindset on it. and can distinguish fiction from reality. much lower sexual abuse cases of minors compared to western countries. so western countries insult asia over it is pure hypocrisy.

in the western countries fathers cannot even be seen with their young daughters in public anymore. LOL
Last edited by salva早晨享用的咖啡; 21 hours ago
Both Salva and OP are speaking absolute nonsense.

GTA and violent games tap into something that is common to most human beings. Loli/shotacon stuff appeal to a very specific type of man, one who is attracted to kids. Aggressive thoughts are normal, pedophilic ones are not. It's really that simple.

Now, whether it should be illegal is a separate conversation. It's a victimless crime, but I don't know whether that type of content normalizes pedophilia or provides a harmless outlet for it.

If it's the latter, then let it be. Just keep it to your damn self and don't tell me it's the same as playing GTA lol.
Last edited by Jetstream Seum; 21 hours ago
The fact that the original lolita novel is still in print, not outlaw and burn, and even regard as one of the best classic, just show that people are hypocrite.
Originally posted by Jetstream Seum:
I don't know whether that type of content normalizes pedophilia or provides a harmless outlet for it.
Yeah, it's an argument of causation or correlation. Are pedos attracted real CP and use lolicon content as a less worse alternative, or is it a gateway to real CP where loliconners eventually upgrade?

When r/jaiIbait got taken down. I believe it was because too many of the members (especially the mods) were trading real CP secretly between each other. So that's why I say there is a link between the two types of content. Whether it's from causation or correlation is up for debate. But I dislike the loliconners either way because I'm pretty sure that link exists.
Last edited by Soren; 21 hours ago
Ys 21 hours ago 
I mean it’s simple, even if it’s fictional. Lolicon consumers are still attracted to the fact that characters look underage.

It’s true that thanks to being fictional it causes no harm, but for many just the fact of lolicons being attracted to underage looking characters is enough to hate them.
Originally posted by HeavyGoat:
ENG:
It does not make sense to me. Who does it hurt? I just it's comparable to saying that G.T.A. would make you a terrorist, and while it may appeal in rare cases, majority does not seem to. Most people can differentiate fiction and reality, and in video games for example do things that are often illegal or impossible in the real world. I don't see the logic with drawing a line in the sand for only one part. What someone with their own life within their own sphere should not matter to anything really in my opinion. And for the last, it was a starter of large part of the new inspired and style for H-stuff.

RU:
Привет, мой вопрос на сегодня: почему lolicon так ненавидят? Это чушь. Я не вижу ни одного реального пострадавшего. Мне просто кажется, что аргументы оппонента сравнимы с утверждением, что GTA сделает тебя террористом. Не вижу логики в том, чтобы проводить черту только для одной стороны. На мой взгляд, то, что человек живёт своей жизнью, в рамках своей сферы, не должно иметь никакого значения. И, наконец, это положило начало значительной части нового вдохновения и стиля для хентая.

It is hard to tell. Part of me would agree with you, but personally I could not care less about those characters and about products based on thoise characters, that usually are just a lot of fanservice and because of that you have no other reason to care about those products unless yoiu are specifically interested in that trope itself. So on the other hand I also think if I was interested in those characters then it would mean something.
Being interested in those characters is not a choice so it would be useful to understand what those products do, what is their effect: do they just incite bad behaviour in real life, or are they a way for people with this kind of interest to to releasae their urges and have more control over themselves in real life? I don't know and it's not my problem but I think that this is the only thing that matyters.

After all you know, personally I think that games like GTA should not be created and expecially should not be allowed in stores to be sold. I have no problem with a game like Carmageddon (and I mean the uncensored version) it is not the content itself but the way it is presented. Carmageddon in real life would be a crime too but it is so crazy, so "stupid" (in a good way), so nonsensical and over the top that it forces you to not take it seriously. But GTA on the other hand (and other products like it, including movies and tv shows) just looks like an advertisement for criminal activites and bad behaviour.

Just like I said before, I think that a game similar to Carmageddon is just a way to vent some stress and anger when you need it while a game like GTA to me seems much more dangerous and capable of incite this kind of behaviour or at least normalize it instead. So it's not like GTA is not contreversial at all. Personally I think that products like it should not exist.
Originally posted by HeavyGoat:
ENG:
It does not make sense to me. Who does it hurt? I just it's comparable to saying that G.T.A. would make you a terrorist, and while it may appeal in rare cases, majority does not seem to. Most people can differentiate fiction and reality, and in video games for example do things that are often illegal or impossible in the real world. I don't see the logic with drawing a line in the sand for only one part. What someone with their own life within their own sphere should not matter to anything really in my opinion. And for the last, it was a starter of large part of the new inspired and style for H-stuff.

RU:
Привет, мой вопрос на сегодня: почему lolicon так ненавидят? Это чушь. Я не вижу ни одного реального пострадавшего. Мне просто кажется, что аргументы оппонента сравнимы с утверждением, что GTA сделает тебя террористом. Не вижу логики в том, чтобы проводить черту только для одной стороны. На мой взгляд, то, что человек живёт своей жизнью, в рамках своей сферы, не должно иметь никакого значения. И, наконец, это положило начало значительной части нового вдохновения и стиля для хентая.
Isn't that just drawn child porn?
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