States with Legal Weed and Corporations/Federal Government

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sable54 22 Oct @ 3:09pm

So I want to have a discussion about rules and regulations of Government/Corporations in States with legal weed laws.

Simply in this day and age as we gain more knowledge in all kinds of fields, weed still has such a stigma around it, it makes absolutely no sense. For decades we were held back in research of marijuana not only by the government but by corporations as well.

(Quick abbreviated history of the stigma of Weed)
Originally grown in warmer climates, as trade continued around the globe marijuana started making its way up mexico into the Americas. At the same time something called the cotton gin was just made and slavery was happening, and come to find out Hemp is a way better and more sustainable material then Cotton for all sorts of uses. This scared the cotton industry and they started a smear campaign against it to ruin its image, then later on in the 1900s 'reefer madness' became the new big issue, and thus started the war on drugs later on.

As the research on marijuana came to a halt due to the federal government and police forces, it became even more stigmatized. Then all psychedelics were off the books for research (cause the government wanted to use it for their own tests) and we wouldn't hear anything for a while. Once research was back on the table we were starting to truly understand what we could do with this little green plant that smells skunky to some. We figured out the difference between CBD and THC, we figured out all kinds of uses it had for physical disorders and pain mitigation, we even started to vote on legalization and pushed for federal voting on it.

Now generally the way its voted in is medical first, then recreational, that's just been the way they slowly see that the general public agrees. Marijuana for most people is not going to cause you psychosis, or feel like there's bugs in your teeth, or any of that crazy stuff. But there definitely are some people out there who have more adverse reactions to it because it is a psychedelic drug. Once it become's recreational most of the medical stores either shut down, or switch over to rec cause med become's the less prominent customer. Weed is being treated just like alcohol and cigarettes, yet its still on the Schedule 1 drug list.

Of course change cant happen until its changed on the federal level, and so far they haven't decided to put it up for vote amongst the support for it. States have began to implement laws to sometimes protect consumers, some changed prices or legislation about the de-criminalization, some are starting to get on board with medical. But yet we still have road blocks for users who want to stop being stigmatized against for med/rec use in their own private domiciles.

Government jobs make sense that you cant smoke and work there, its federally illegal, but when it comes to regular corporate or entry level jobs its per company. Now this is where things get muddled up by corporations more then the government, some states where its legal do have laws to protect LEGAL users using it off the clock, and some sadly don't. It boils down to the insurance companies, franchises/corporate, and state governments: Insurance companies wont be as likely to insure people who smoke weed, which in turn makes it to where companies don't want to hire users cause of the issues it'll give them in the overall process, which in turn doesn't give the government as much money in taxes and lets lobbyists and other third parties persuade the local government over the people.

Alcohol and cigarettes are UNSCHEDULED (due to Big tobacco and alcohol) and cause way more health and mental issues then marijuana, but get brushed to the side due to the years of marketing and money poured into the markets respectively. How is it any different that someone smokes a joint over drinking beer/liquor at their own property without breaking any laws. The stigma itself is as old and tired as all of congress' dried up asses from a bygone era, it makes no sense with as big and profitable as the marijuana industry is that we don't legalize it federally.

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Zero 22 Oct @ 3:17pm

All recreational drug use should be illegal.

sable54 22 Oct @ 3:18pm

Originally posted by Zero:
All recreational drug use should be illegal.

I hope you don't drink coffee, energy drinks, or tea cause they call contain a drug called caffeine.

Zero 22 Oct @ 3:20pm

Originally posted by sable54:
Originally posted by Zero:
All recreational drug use should be illegal.
I hope you don't drink coffee, energy drinks, or tea cause they call contain a drug called caffeine.

Don't be disingenuous.

Also, I hate coffee and refuse to touch it.

Good Night Owl 22 Oct @ 3:25pm

I'd prefer it stay illegal.

redeyes 22 Oct @ 3:32pm

Originally posted by Zero:
Originally posted by sable54:
I hope you don't drink coffee, energy drinks, or tea cause they call contain a drug called caffeine.
Don't be disingenuous.

Also, I hate coffee and refuse to touch it.

so u just live life completely sober? lol

sable54 22 Oct @ 3:35pm

Originally posted by Good Night Owl:
I'd prefer it stay illegal.

Understandable, to each their own. But im curious as to why?

sable54 22 Oct @ 3:36pm

Originally posted by Zero:
Originally posted by sable54:
I hope you don't drink coffee, energy drinks, or tea cause they call contain a drug called caffeine.
Don't be disingenuous.

Also, I hate coffee and refuse to touch it.

Im not, they even talk about caffeine in psychology classes when talking about drugs. Plenty of people get addicted to caffeine and don't think about it.

Good Night Owl 22 Oct @ 3:43pm

Originally posted by sable54:
Originally posted by Good Night Owl:
I'd prefer it stay illegal.
Understandable, to each their own. But im curious as to why?

I think it has different affects on the mind from coffee or sugar, and cigarettes. It is less addictive than harder drugs, that is true, but one out of five people do get a bad addiction from it.

I think addictions to drugs that have strong affects on the mind like that can lead to those particular people getting into other drugs that can lead to other people being put in danger, and I think it has an indirect connection to increased crime rates. I feel the same about alcohol, but you know... Good luck convincing society to ban alcohol. I do not feel that way about caffeine, or cigarettes, I do not think they leave the same mark on society.

I also think the drug in question has long term side effects not yet discovered in studies that influence thought processes, memory issues, and more...

And also... The stuff is just nasty, and some people will do it inside a building invading the lungs of anyone stuck in the building with them. I know from experience because it is legal in my state. People wouldn't do that if it were illegal.

Boblin the Goblin 22 Oct @ 3:50pm

Originally posted by Good Night Owl:
Originally posted by sable54:
Understandable, to each their own. But im curious as to why?

I think it has different affects on the mind from coffee or sugar, and cigarettes. It is less addictive than harder drugs, that is true, but one out of five people do get a bad addiction from it.

I think addictions to drugs that have strong affects on the mind like that can lead to those particular people getting into other drugs that can lead to other people being put in danger, and I think it has an indirect connection to increased crime rates. I feel the same about alcohol, but you know... Good luck convincing society to ban alcohol. I do not feel that way about caffeine, or cigarettes, I do not think they leave the same mark on society.

I also think the drug in question has long term side effects not yet discovered in studies that influence thought processes, memory issues, and more...

And also... The stuff is just nasty, and some people will do it inside a building invading the lungs of anyone stuck in the building with them. I know from experience because it is legal in my state. People wouldn't do that if it were illegal.

Cigarettes cause many more health issues to the user and those around them than pot.

Good Night Owl 22 Oct @ 3:55pm

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:
Originally posted by Good Night Owl:

I think it has different affects on the mind from coffee or sugar, and cigarettes. It is less addictive than harder drugs, that is true, but one out of five people do get a bad addiction from it.

I think addictions to drugs that have strong affects on the mind like that can lead to those particular people getting into other drugs that can lead to other people being put in danger, and I think it has an indirect connection to increased crime rates. I feel the same about alcohol, but you know... Good luck convincing society to ban alcohol. I do not feel that way about caffeine, or cigarettes, I do not think they leave the same mark on society.

I also think the drug in question has long term side effects not yet discovered in studies that influence thought processes, memory issues, and more...

And also... The stuff is just nasty, and some people will do it inside a building invading the lungs of anyone stuck in the building with them. I know from experience because it is legal in my state. People wouldn't do that if it were illegal.
Cigarettes cause many more health issues to the user and those around them than pot.

Good for you.

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Boblin the Goblin 22 Oct @ 3:59pm

Originally posted by Good Night Owl:
Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:
Cigarettes cause many more health issues to the user and those around them than pot.

Good for you.

So they have left a bigger mark on society than weed or alcohol.

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sable54 22 Oct @ 4:56pm

Originally posted by Good Night Owl:
Originally posted by sable54:
Understandable, to each their own. But im curious as to why?

I think it has different affects on the mind from coffee or sugar, and cigarettes. It is less addictive than harder drugs, that is true, but one out of five people do get a bad addiction from it.

I think addictions to drugs that have strong affects on the mind like that can lead to those particular people getting into other drugs that can lead to other people being put in danger, and I think it has an indirect connection to increased crime rates. I feel the same about alcohol, but you know... Good luck convincing society to ban alcohol. I do not feel that way about caffeine, or cigarettes, I do not think they leave the same mark on society.

I also think the drug in question has long term side effects not yet discovered in studies that influence thought processes, memory issues, and more...

And also... The stuff is just nasty, and some people will do it inside a building invading the lungs of anyone stuck in the building with them. I know from experience because it is legal in my state. People wouldn't do that if it were illegal.

I would argue weed addiction is different than hard drugs, speaking from experience weed itself is not a addictive drug, its the feeling it gives your brain that can be addicting if you use it to cope with issues. Using it for pain or Parkinson's is not going to make you go try harder drugs, nor is using it in a regular fashion, its the people they're around.

Now are there certain cases of people going from one to another? Yea of course but there's tons of underlying factors we don't know about like mental issues and family history of addiction that vary per person. Cigarettes themselves are a big issue along with e-cigarettes, we know plenty of the hazards to everyone's health cigarettes cause and we barely know anything yet about the e-cigarettes. Cigarettes also stink way way worse then weed ever could, people have been smoking in apartments since weed was introduced into the Americas.

I can agree that weed definitely has some possible health/mental concerns down the road with long term use.

Last thing is making weed safer and opening dispensaries is better then keeping it illegal and letting all the fake stuff keep getting bought and killing people who want it for medical or recreational purposes.

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Senor Eppeb Beppers 22 Oct @ 4:59pm

Originally posted by Zero:
All recreational drug use should be illegal.

ban all chemicals! Do you know how much money on taxes dispensaries bring into local governments?

Last edited by Senor Eppeb Beppers; 22 Oct @ 5:02pm

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Senor Eppeb Beppers 22 Oct @ 5:01pm

Originally posted by sable54:
I would argue weed addiction is different than hard drugs.

It isn't an addiction. Alcohol is chemically addictive. Cocaine is chemically addictive. Opioids are chemically addictive. Coffee is chemically addictive. Marijuana IS NOT chemically addictive.

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sable54 22 Oct @ 5:58pm

Originally posted by Senor Eppeb Beppers:
Originally posted by sable54:
I would argue weed addiction is different than hard drugs.
It isn't an addiction. Alcohol is chemically addictive. Cocaine is chemically addictive. Opioids are chemically addictive. Coffee is chemically addictive. Marijuana IS NOT chemically addictive.

Dude don't try to argue with my about my own experience, i explained what it was. Didn't say it was chemically addictive.

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