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One Economy?
Is there a place completely isolated from the current economy?

Originally posted by Fuki:

The world will soon constitute one race, one nation, one language, one economy, under God and Capital.

Nah there will be more close to pre world war 1 europe little trade or info between countries everyone is taught they are superior to every other nation and to not like other nations and their ppl its how it will end up and the internet will be only in america rest of the world will regress

I've heard a ton of leftists say this. People having different communities and cultures and currencies isn't good because this "divides us". So instead they want everyone to think, act, and be identical. That's impossible to logically happen because even in one country people have different communities, but these people don't think much.

Originally posted by Bunille:

I've heard a ton of leftists say this. People having different communities and cultures and currencies isn't good because this "divides us". So instead they want everyone to think, act, and be identical. That's impossible to logically happen because even in one country people have different communities, but these people don't think much.

I dunno, I thought it was pretty clear I was posting against the idea of a NWO, but ok.

Originally posted by Bunille:

I've heard a ton of leftists say this. People having different communities and cultures and currencies isn't good because this "divides us". So instead they want everyone to think, act, and be identical. That's impossible to logically happen because even in one country people have different communities, but these people don't think much.

Nonesense.

Capitalism gets rid of diversity, when everything is about money. There´s no place for learning languages, when they don´t earn money. There´s no place for different cultures, when it doesn´t earn money.

Leftist might want to have international rules about certain things. Like e.g. taxes or workers rights. Leftists might want that not everything is about money, so languages, dialects and cultures still have a place.

In capitalism everybody needs to think the same, because if You don´t think like a capitalist, You end up poor or even starve to death if there is no welfare.

Perhaps it couldn´t harm if You think a bit as well.

i like new order. good band.

Originally posted by Triple G:

Originally posted by Bunille:

I've heard a ton of leftists say this. People having different communities and cultures and currencies isn't good because this "divides us". So instead they want everyone to think, act, and be identical. That's impossible to logically happen because even in one country people have different communities, but these people don't think much.

Nonesense.

Capitalism gets rid of diversity, when everything is about money. There´s no place for learning languages, when they don´t earn money. There´s no place for different cultures, when it doesn´t earn money.

Leftist might want to have international rules about certain things. Like e.g. taxes or workers rights. Leftists might want that not everything is about money, so languages, dialects and cultures still have a place.

In capitalism everybody needs to think the same, because if You don´t think like a capitalist, You end up poor or even starve to death if there is no welfare.

Perhaps it couldn´t harm if You think a bit as well.

I would not confuse leftism with anti-capitalism in the modern day. After the New Left it's important to understand that leftism is no longer just about defeating capitalism but rather the destruction and subversion of reality at all costs. Some thinkers have even pushed to say that modern leftism is an extension of the bourgeois / capitalist mindset.

Although, I should note, that the old Left doesn't have a good track record on this either, since Marxists and Bolsheviks advocated for cosmopolitanism, which was the predecessor of world homogenization in the name of the "proletarian" identity. Actually, it's worse than it is now because usually leftists believe in some form of geniunely grounded identity to be defended. The old Leftists saw it as illusory.

Originally posted by Bunille:

I've heard a ton of leftists say this. People having different communities and cultures and currencies isn't good because this "divides us". So instead they want everyone to think, act, and be identical. That's impossible to logically happen because even in one country people have different communities, but these people don't think much.

I've seen people wish for that too, no borders, no cultures, it sounds depressing and boring.

Originally posted by Fuki:

I would not confuse leftism with anti-capitalism in the modern day. After the New Left it's important to understand that leftism is no longer just about defeating capitalism but rather the destruction and subversion of reality at all costs. Some thinkers have even pushed to say that modern leftism is an extension of the bourgeois / capitalist mindset.

I wouldn´t consider that as left - same as most things which Americans label as left. And of course it´s odd that people with much money claim to be left - or favor such ideas, as long as it´s not about their own money.

Also i don´t think that there´s a new left. If anything it´s that certain people on the right label certain things as left when they aren´t left.

I´d agree that there are "lifestyle" leftists. Basically hypocrites, or people who have no idea what "leftism" is about.

It doesn´t even need to be against capitalism, but about a certain amount of fairness, to secure individual freedom. There´s no freedom is everyone depends on the decisions of big corporations, and certain billionaires buy all kinds of media sources to manipulate the people.

Also the topic is about neo liberalism - which imho doesn´t have much to do with liberal ideas. It´s basically only about total freedom for business, at the cost of individual freedom for the people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0VztagtLCk

Imagine that.

Originally posted by Triple G:

Originally posted by Bunille:

I've heard a ton of leftists say this. People having different communities and cultures and currencies isn't good because this "divides us". So instead they want everyone to think, act, and be identical. That's impossible to logically happen because even in one country people have different communities, but these people don't think much.

Nonesense.

Capitalism gets rid of diversity, when everything is about money. There´s no place for learning languages, when they don´t earn money. There´s no place for different cultures, when it doesn´t earn money.

Leftist might want to have international rules about certain things. Like e.g. taxes or workers rights. Leftists might want that not everything is about money, so languages, dialects and cultures still have a place.

In capitalism everybody needs to think the same, because if You don´t think like a capitalist, You end up poor or even starve to death if there is no welfare.

Perhaps it couldn´t harm if You think a bit as well.

You'd rather them lose money? That's the most stupid move anyone could ever do. Even a small financial failure in a super rich company can cause them to shut down. In a capitalistic society the world is your oyster, nothing is stopping you from starting up a business and nobody is taking anything away from you. You put your mind to it, you work hard, rinse in a bit of luck, and that's all yours, nobody can stop you apart from the lack of buyers. Yes, you. If people want to buy from you, it's up to them to give you money. Selling too low, you run out of money and you run out of business. Selling too high and nobody buys so you run out of business. Find the sweet spot and you're set for life. There is no such thing as a capitalistic company that refuses to give their products to another race. If they have the permit to sell in that country, your race and language doesn't matter, you can translate the website. Different cultures make them earn more money. They are very open to diversity, just not the woke diversity, but actual diversity of customers. A company that restricts other races intentionally isn't capitalist, they are intentionally losing out on income.

Originally posted by Bunille:

Originally posted by Triple G:

Nonesense.

Capitalism gets rid of diversity, when everything is about money. There´s no place for learning languages, when they don´t earn money. There´s no place for different cultures, when it doesn´t earn money.

Leftist might want to have international rules about certain things. Like e.g. taxes or workers rights. Leftists might want that not everything is about money, so languages, dialects and cultures still have a place.

In capitalism everybody needs to think the same, because if You don´t think like a capitalist, You end up poor or even starve to death if there is no welfare.

Perhaps it couldn´t harm if You think a bit as well.

So capitalism is all about no money? That's communism. In a capitalistic society the world is your oyster, nothing is stopping you from starting up a business and nobody is taking anything away from you. You put your mind to it, you word hard, rinse in a bit of luck, and that's all yours, nobody can stop you apart from the lack of buyers. Yes, you. If people want to buy from you, it's up to them to give you money. Selling too low, you run out of money and you run out of business. Selling too high and nobody buys so you run out of business. Find the sweet spot and you're set for life. There is no such thing as a capitalistic company that refuses to give their products to another race. If they have the permit to sell in that country, your race and language doesn't matter, you can translate the website. Different cultures make them earn more money. They are very open to diversity, just not the woke diversity, but actual diversity of customers. A company that restricts other races intentionally isn't capitalist, they are intentionally losing out on income.

Diversity as in variation, not inclusion.

Originally posted by Fuki:

Originally posted by Bunille:

So capitalism is all about no money? That's communism. In a capitalistic society the world is your oyster, nothing is stopping you from starting up a business and nobody is taking anything away from you. You put your mind to it, you word hard, rinse in a bit of luck, and that's all yours, nobody can stop you apart from the lack of buyers. Yes, you. If people want to buy from you, it's up to them to give you money. Selling too low, you run out of money and you run out of business. Selling too high and nobody buys so you run out of business. Find the sweet spot and you're set for life. There is no such thing as a capitalistic company that refuses to give their products to another race. If they have the permit to sell in that country, your race and language doesn't matter, you can translate the website. Different cultures make them earn more money. They are very open to diversity, just not the woke diversity, but actual diversity of customers. A company that restricts other races intentionally isn't capitalist, they are intentionally losing out on income.

Diversity as in variation, not inclusion.

Isnt diveristy illegal now

Originally posted by Fuki:

Originally posted by Bunille:

So capitalism is all about no money? That's communism. In a capitalistic society the world is your oyster, nothing is stopping you from starting up a business and nobody is taking anything away from you. You put your mind to it, you word hard, rinse in a bit of luck, and that's all yours, nobody can stop you apart from the lack of buyers. Yes, you. If people want to buy from you, it's up to them to give you money. Selling too low, you run out of money and you run out of business. Selling too high and nobody buys so you run out of business. Find the sweet spot and you're set for life. There is no such thing as a capitalistic company that refuses to give their products to another race. If they have the permit to sell in that country, your race and language doesn't matter, you can translate the website. Different cultures make them earn more money. They are very open to diversity, just not the woke diversity, but actual diversity of customers. A company that restricts other races intentionally isn't capitalist, they are intentionally losing out on income.

Diversity as in variation, not inclusion.

Variation of what? Stock? Customers? Capitalists are very open to that.