i get that you just regurgitate ♥♥♥♥ you read on twitter, but this is like a week old dude.

We can start by understanding that someone looking at you when you are in public has literally zero impact on your life and start treating those that whine and complain otherwise as the lunatics they are.

Then we can start by reintroducing the almost alien concept of carrying on with what you are doing and ignore what other people are doing when it doesn't impact you at all.

Finally we can have law enforcement actually prosecute and the judicial actually putting away those that commit real crimes, instead of wasting the resources of both on going after people who dared to look at other people in public.

Me too me too!

This again?

There had been a lot of complaints from people in the area of behaviour towards female joggers.

There was a serious risk of escalation when people had been followed - if the police had not stepped in the escalation could have led to worse.

If you are out jogging and a person starts following you...

18 white vans no longer have their drivers ):

Originally posted by Immortalis:

We can start by understanding that someone looking at you when you are in public has literally zero impact on your life and start treating those that whine and complain otherwise as the lunatics they are.

Then we can start by reintroducing the almost alien concept of carrying on with what you are doing and ignore what other people are doing when it doesn't impact you at all.

Finally we can have law enforcement actually prosecute and the judicial actually putting away those that commit real crimes, instead of wasting the resources of both on going after people who dared to look at other people in public.

How would you feel if you were harassed when you went for a run or a cycle?

looks like the surrey police have nothing important to do

Originally posted by JaX:

looks like the surrey police have nothing important to do

So your sister or mother or daughter are out running and are getting followed regularly, or spat at, or have comments and gestures waved at them from various strangers and potentially dangerous people and you think the police should let it go?

Originally posted by Arvaos:

How can we tackle this toxic behaviour that men display towards women?

It can happen the other way around too.

Generally an issue is standards of behaviour has changed over time and what will be allowed to fly and what will not has changed too.

How do you change that cultural behaviour?
With media stating what is ok and what is not ok incorporating them into storylines.
From News Channels and Newspapers as can be seen here.
And Warnings to people from the police addressing the public on the whole.

That is a way of addressing it before going and arresting / charging people.
Society's and general intelligence for the matter need to adjust as with anything changing / starting.

Originally posted by Immortalis:

We can start by understanding that someone looking at you when you are in public has literally zero impact on your life and start treating those that whine and complain otherwise as the lunatics they are.

Then we can start by reintroducing the almost alien concept of carrying on with what you are doing and ignore what other people are doing when it doesn't impact you at all.

Finally we can have law enforcement actually prosecute and the judicial actually putting away those that commit real crimes, instead of wasting the resources of both on going after people who dared to look at other people in public.

While I kind of agree with your overall sentiment here, women absolutely do have to face pretty absurd levels of harassment. As a man, it probably does seem a bit like whining, but you (or I) don't have to deal with that ♥♥♥♥ constantly. I can only imagine how exhausting it must get.

Like most things, Chapelle nailed it:
https://youtu.be/Wr4UifWx1xs?si=prasgRgJ4r-kcSwd

Originally posted by Corvus XIII:

Originally posted by Arvaos:

How can we tackle this toxic behaviour that men display towards women?

It can happen the other way around too.

Generally an issue is standards of behaviour has changed over time and what will be allowed to fly and what will not has changed too.

How do you change that cultural behaviour?
With media stating what is ok and what is not ok incorporating them into storylines.
From News Channels and Newspapers as can be seen here.
And Warnings to people from the police addressing the public on the whole.

That is a way of addressing it before going and arresting / charging people.
Society's and general intelligence for the matter need to adjust as with anything changing / starting.

You're right.

Catcalling is about power, it's an exercise of power and not simply about attraction.

The harassers enjoy making women feel objectified and uncomfortable but it can happen to men as well.

ignore them its the UK they need licenses to even have a windows on the 2nd floor of their house that open and the government goes into peoples houses to check if they own TVs cus u need a license for that too

fk UK

not surprising from the UK, ofc they call "any" "attention" from a man, towards a women, "harassment".

whistling, waving, winking, talking to a woman, helping a woman, ect...

at this point, best not to vacation or visit the UK, you might get life in jail, for breathing in a woman's direction....

imagine being a woman and any "attention" not wanted is framed as "harassment", while allowing the same "attention", in the same fashion and not calling it "harassment", because its a guy you want "attention" from.

in any case, maybe UK needs to start with their immigration issue and the "sexual misconduct gangs" they brought with them, instead of lumping "men" together as one and blaming them as a whole.

maybe us men, need to start getting women jailed through entrapment, for their toxic behaviors and such.

have a nice day peeps

Originally posted by Corvus XIII:

This again?

There had been a lot of complaints from people in the area of behaviour towards female joggers.

There was a serious risk of escalation when people had been followed - if the police had not stepped in the escalation could have led to worse.

If you are out jogging and a person starts following you...

they are lying, last month they were saying 1/10 women have been spat on jogging in the UK

literaly liars

Cool, but what is the boundary between watching and harassing?