https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMiw1WHL6Is

Originally posted by Wichtelman:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMiw1WHL6Is

What is the point of the video? How does it relates to the question I asked? Or maybe just to get some views?

post a cpuz validation link
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
cpuz -> validate button -> submit button
it will open a browser, copy the url (address) and paste it here

more fps doesnt help if its above the displays refresh rate

Originally posted by _I_:

post a cpuz validation link
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
cpuz -> validate button -> submit button
it will open a browser, copy the url (address) and paste it here

more fps doesnt help if its above the displays refresh rate

https://valid.x86.fr/m41wb2

a better gpu will not help you because your cpu limits the max fps as you can see in the video AND how much fps you can expect with your cpu...

do you know how xmp works?
you should run a benchmark like userbenchmark or passmark to check if your hardware runs properly...

Originally posted by Wichtelman:

a better gpu will not help you because your cpu limits the max fps as you can see in the video AND how much fps you can expect with your cpu...

do you know how xmp works?
you should run a benchmark like userbenchmark or passmark to check if your hardware runs properly...

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/71224192

Originally posted by skof1:

Originally posted by Wichtelman:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMiw1WHL6Is

What is the point of the video? How does it relates to the question I asked? Or maybe just to get some views?

If you actually paid attention to the video you would see your cpu is the bottleneck. On the left it's not able to get a RTX 3070 to be running at 100%. On the right, a 7800x3d which is a lot faster, is able to push a RTX 3070 more and therefore more fps.

xmp is enabled
its at 1800mhz cl18
the his kit is 4x8g ddr 3600 cl18

with vsync off, and you lower res and visual settings and fps do not increase, its cpu limited
even with low cpu usage, games do not use all available cores, but are limited by single core performance

the mobo is not great, but should be ok for the 5700x3d
6+1+1 vrm, with heatsinks on the 6 for the cpu cores
should be able to give it ~150w
amd says its a 105w cpu, but it can draw much more
as long as the board is not throttling at load its fine
(ie. core temps low but still throttles)

turn on vsync and freesync if the monitor supports it

Originally posted by _I_:

xmp is enabled
its at 1800mhz cl18
the his kit is 4x8g ddr 3600 cl18

with vsync off, and you lower res and visual settings and fps do not increase, its cpu limited
even with low cpu usage, games do not use all available cores, but are limited by single core performance

the mobo is not great, but should be ok for the 5700x3d
6+1+1 vrm, with heatsinks on the 6 for the cpu cores
should be able to give it ~150w
amd says its a 105w cpu, but it can draw much more
as long as the board is not throttling at load its fine
(ie. core temps low but still throttles)

turn on vsync and freesync if the monitor supports it

Thank you for your inputs. Do you think switching to AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D and a B650 MB would be sufficient enough to get better performance?

its at 1800mhz cl18
the his kit is 4x8g ddr 3600 cl18 -> is there a way to make this work at 3600?

The x3D series of processors... They come at a significant additional cost and only perform well with top-of-the-line graphics cards.

For normal use, the standard series are fine, I've tried them.

My 5700x3D is fine with its Rx 7600 Xt though. but after, there are these little beasts https://ibb.co/svS1zMmP

Optimized PCs then don't want you to turn on other machines anymore.

7800x3d is about 30% faster than the 5700x3d
https://technical.city/en/cpu/Ryzen-7-7800X3D-vs-Ryzen-7-5700X3D
both 8 cores with smt

if its not gpu limited, will gain fps by about that much
250 x 1.3 = 325

as for the board, it really depends on which you pick
a poor board will be worse than what you have
and better would help if the cpu needs to pull more power from it

ex. ASRock B650 Pro RS WiFi
https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/B650%20Pro%20RS%20WiFi/
14+2+1 all with heatsinks
can give the cores ~350w

and it will also need new ram, since am5 cpus only have ddr5 memory controller

Originally posted by skof1:

My current setup is as follows:

CPU: Ryzen 7 5700X3D
GPU: RX 6700XT
MB: AsRock B550 Phatom Gaming 4
RAM: 32GB 3600mhz
SSD: 1tb

I have a good cooler for cpu and a good PSU.

I am struggling on getting more than 300fps on 1080p CS2 game. Most of the time I get less than 300fps. An average of 280fps

Any suggestions on if upgrading GPU would make any difference? Or any other suggestion?

I am a bit confused what you think the issue is here?...

300 FPS on CS2 is frankly *quite good* for a mid range setup.

CS2 is *not* CS:GO and it *is* more CPU intensive than counterstrike of the past sadly. It may not have been at start but is it now. Even high end rigs struggle for more. 300 is perfectly reasonable for a mid range build, which is where you would hit hardware wise.

An article from this week for some context and perspective.

https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/pc-gaming/pro-counter-strike-2-gamer-says-game-runs-like-a-on-anything-other-than-amds-ryzen-9800x3d-custom-demo-of-the-game-runs-at-under-200-fps-even-on-on-amds-best-gaming-cpus

Originally posted by TomsHardware:

The reports he got back are impressively poor. Multiple users boasting Ryzen 7 9800X3Ds or Ryzen 9 9950X3Ds reported frame rates below 200FPS. For one user (Arklyn) sporting a 9800X3D and an RTX 4070, frame rates start at 600FPS but drop all the way down to 170 FPS during intensive scenes. Another user (badhan) reported an FPS dip all the way down to 163 FPS in the same replay, despite also running a 9800X3D and an even more powerful RTX 5080 graphics card.

If you are wondering if graphics settings are causing the issues, at least one X poster recorded a frame rate drop as low as 135FPS, featuring a 7800X3D and running the game on "almost all" settings on low with a resolution of 1280x960.

Ropz's demo is likely a worst-case scenario that won't always happen in your games, even in tournament matches. So you shouldn't worry about frame rates going that low if you're a more casual CS2 player.

Regardless, it shows CS2's performance issues firsthand and how erratic the game's frame rate dips can be. For those unfamiliar with CS2's regular performance, the best gaming chips on the market, liuke the 9800X3D, are capable of allegedly playing the game (albeit in less intensive scenes) at 600+ FPS, depending on graphics settings and the graphics card used. Less-capable chips, such as AMD's non-X3D chips and Intel's Core i5 and i7 Raptor Lake chips, are known for running the game in the 300-400 FPS range (again, depending on graphics settings and the GPU used).

Top end AMD systems can hit 600+, most Intel systems (current generations) are 300-400. Many on even top end see dips below 200. You are on a mid range build using parts that are now 2 generations old (no shade, I run same generation just up on the prod stack). 200-300 averages for you are probably in line.

My advice, just play and enjoy. If your FPS > Hz you cant see them anyway, and if you are on a high refresh screen your latency will be fine.

Originally posted by skof1:

Originally posted by _I_:

xmp is enabled
its at 1800mhz cl18
the his kit is 4x8g ddr 3600 cl18

with vsync off, and you lower res and visual settings and fps do not increase, its cpu limited
even with low cpu usage, games do not use all available cores, but are limited by single core performance

the mobo is not great, but should be ok for the 5700x3d
6+1+1 vrm, with heatsinks on the 6 for the cpu cores
should be able to give it ~150w
amd says its a 105w cpu, but it can draw much more
as long as the board is not throttling at load its fine
(ie. core temps low but still throttles)

turn on vsync and freesync if the monitor supports it

Thank you for your inputs. Do you think switching to AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D and a B650 MB would be sufficient enough to get better performance?

its at 1800mhz cl18
the his kit is 4x8g ddr 3600 cl18 -> is there a way to make this work at 3600?

If you plan to switch, it seems you will want the 9800x3D if your concern is CS2 performance. Little point running 7k line unless you already own it or get it dirt cheap.

Umm, I know nothing about CS2 as I don't play the game, but isn't 280fps good enough? Sure, there may be dips in framerate here and there, but doing 280fps is pretty good...is there even a difference between getting, say, 360fps vs 280fps in actual gameplay? I have the same CPU as the TS, and similar 2x 16GB 3600MHz RAM, except I have an X570 mobo and an RX 7900XTX, but I play more GPU intensive games like BM Wukong, perhaps Stellar Blade and their ilk....

Originally posted by skof1:

its at 1800mhz cl18
the his kit is 4x8g ddr 3600 cl18 -> is there a way to make this work at 3600?

1800mhz is ddr 3600 due the the way ddr works
cycles on up and down ticks 2x1800 = 3600