Because it performs the same as a new entry level GPU the 5060, so low end now.

Extended Heatsink to a agp card?
ddr4 that is numbered 80 that might be single rank on a motherboard that has 2 slots and should have now gone quad channel for shadowing
if haven't ran anything without the gpu with those 12 cores to find its niche spot of games perhaps PC stands for player controlling.

2070 is the beginning of the cards. at moment where 5060-5090 is on the shelf.

potato? its probably voltage. .5 potato is read. Mean that however set up it's still probably only using less then it's meant, for safety reasons that a good thing. Potato pahtato

This is how to become aware of hardware and operating systems

Got a sensor on newer systems that turn on from being walked into the room, yet its only 8 cores and 8448ddr5 ram and no gpu..

because its the internet and there are always newer better products coming out

Originally posted by _I_:

because its the internet and there are always newer better products coming out

yea but it makes more sense for low end to mean actual quality instead of how many years it’s been in existence.

It’s not low end low end but the parts are all multiple generations old and none of them were super prestigious even at the time.
(You have a build that for the most part would have been mid-high end at the time imo)

For some people unless you have rtx 9000, it's low end.
The only somewhat close to low end in your spec is dd4 ram, but even that is still not true low end, some still manage to use ddr3 with under 4Gb size. I've seen such specs still around.

Originally posted by itzDerrio:

Originally posted by _I_:

because its the internet and there are always newer better products coming out

yea but it makes more sense for low end to mean actual quality instead of how many years it’s been in existence.

Low and high end is in relation to current gen hardware where 5090 is top end, 5070 is mid range and 5060 is low end.

We are at the end of ps5 generation where even low end have no trouble to perform better than consoles.

I wouldn't call it "low end". Some people's perceptions get a little skewed sometimes and anything short of bleeding edge becomes unusable garbage in their minds. However, it's two generations old, and it was mid-range at the time of it's release.

Still, if it's working for you and playing the games you want to play, who cares what anyone else thinks?

Originally posted by C1REX:

Low and high end is in relation to current gen hardware where 5090 is top end, 5070 is mid range and 5060 is low end.

See, this I would agree with if APUs and other lower-powered options didn't exist. I think it makes a bit more sense to call the 5060 "entry level", and those low powered APUs would be "low end".

It`s not really low end but the 8 GB VRAM card is starting to wear a little thin now.
Should start thinking about RX 9070 XT or RTX 5070 Ti.

There's only one thing that matters and one thing only: For as long as it's still doing the job for you, it's doing the job.

Otherwise: "We buy things we don't need with money we don't have to impress people we don't like." Or, in case of the internet: to impress people we don't even know.

;-)

it isn't low end, it's entry level, the step above low end.

5050 low end
5060 entry level
5070 med end
5080 high end
5090 very high end

the 3070 sits around the 5060 level in performance.

normal = buying a new pc every 2 generations

low end = x60
mid end = x70
high end = x80ti
extreme high end = titan / x90

in a normal lineup.. an x80ti costs 2x what an x70 costs and performans about 60% better.
and an titan costs 3x what an x70 costs and performans about 80% better.
while an x60 costs about 60% what an x70 costs and peformans about 50%

but each generation also increases in performance 40% while poweruse stays the same
**(the poweruse part is where nvidea has slacked the most recently which is due them just being greedy slackers..

so if we set that in price and performance

**below this is considered "office gpu, not gaming*
x60 price 60 pefformance 50
x70 price 100 peformance 100
x80ti price 200 performance 160
x90 price 300 performance 180

-----------------------
say we start with that 3070 of yours...

3070 price 100 performance 100

than the 4000 generations hits.. 40% faster same price

suddenly you have

3060 with it's 50 peformance is now considered no longer a gaming gpu

4060 price 60 performance 70 -> the new standard for low end gaming
3070 price 100 performance 100
4070 price 100 performance 140
3080 price 200 performance 160
3090 price 300 performance 180
4080ti price 200 performance 224
4090 price 300 performance 288

than the next generation hits... again 40% performance gain...

4060 -> with it's 70 peformance is now considered no longer a gaming gpu
and that 3070 has now dropped to low end performance as it plays in the same ballpark as that 5060

3070 price 100 performance 100
5060 price 60 performance 100
4070 price 100 performance 140
3080ti price 200 performance 160
3090 price 300 performance 180
5070 price 100 performance 200
4080ti price 200 performance 224
4090 price 300 performance 288
5080ti price 200 performance 320
5090 price 300 perormance 360

while realitily can diverge from this a little (especially with how nvidea has been slacking in the tdp and how fake frames have messed up the actual performance and yacked up the need for vram...

the 3070 and 5060 perform roughly in the same level irl so basicly what used to be a mid tear cpu now is low end.

potato is what is below low end.. aka if you had any 1000 series or older, any 2000 series exept the x80ti or titan rtx, the 3060ti or lower the 4060 or lower, or the 5050ti or lower.. you ould have a potato and be below low end..

generally it was always'

x50 this gen : office card
x60 this gen, low end gaming
x60 last gen : office card
x70 this gen : mid end gaming
x70 last gen : mid end gaming
x70 2 gens back : low end gaming
x70 3 gens back : office card
x80 this gen : higher mid end gaming
x80 last gen : mid end gaming
x80 2 gens back : low end gaming
x80 3 gens back : office card
x80ti this gen : high end gaming
x80ti last gen : higher mid end gaming
x80ti 2 gens back : mid end gaming
x80ti 3 gens back : low end gaming
x80ti 4 gens back : office card
x90/titan this gen : extreme high end gaming
x90/titan last gen : higher mid end gaming
x90/titan 2 gens back : mid end gaming
x90/titan 3 gens back : low end gaming
x90/titan 4 gens back : office card

This was meant to be the high end all along
NVIDIA RTX PRO™ 5000 Blackwell
Those that have been testing this got pretty much everyone caught. Can't be without one soon enough.
Low end
is the MB in question slotting ability.
They make them all in one with pci 5 x16 on down to pci-e to before


There is

AMD Radeon™ PRO W7900 yet that is the low end of above can purchase it today.

Originally posted by De Hollandse Ezel:

normal = buying a new pc every 2 generations

That's what Nvidia, Intel and AMD may be promoting. I'd argue buying an altogether new PC every 2 generations is pretty "enthusiast level" else though.

It's not strictly "necessary" anymore even for the more demanding games. As consoles have been running the AAAA show since Wing Commander, Crysis et all went bust -- and consoles aren't based on higher end hardware even when they release. The current generation is roughly (!) comparable to a Ryzen 7 3700X with a RX 6700 (non-XT). The PS5 Pro got a graphics upgrade, roughly RX 9060 XT, which ain't huge of an uplift over the 3070. Consoles don't have the same VRAM limitations though.

PC advancements have significantly slowed down too. If you want more, you want more. Remember though that on consoles, a stable 60fps is still mostly the optimum, not the bare minimum. Every single frame is still getting ever more complex, after all. And 30/40 frames rendered per second are still supported too. The more you fps, the more you buy! :-)

Originally posted by itzDerrio:

Originally posted by _I_:

because its the internet and there are always newer better products coming out

yea but it makes more sense for low end to mean actual quality instead of how many years it’s been in existence.

It's a sliding scale.

The current product stack dictates what is high end and what is on the low end of the stack.

So, every existing component gets it's performance compared to the current line up, it makes sense if you think about it, when trying to talk about high end performance or mid tier or what you can expect from an entry level build, you are referencing the latest tech.

So, your 5 /6 year old build that was a solid mid tier system cannot be compared to a new mid tier system, as it doesn't perform like one, so, it's compared to what is on its same rough level.

What ever tier something falls into doesn't really matter beyond everyone having the same rough point of comparison in a discussion, new comers and old can look up how a 5060ti performs and know it's an entry level gaming card, they can see it does not stack up well against a 5070ti which is a solid kid tier and gets demolished by a 5090 which is the very tippy top of high end, or even, really sits beyond the traditional scale as a halo product.

So if someone wants to know how an entry level or low end system behaves, they know they can compare a 5060ti to a 4060ti, a 3070 or even a 2080 and they all sit at around the same level of performance.

It does not mean they are not very good machines and very capable and if you are happy with your performance you should be very happy with it.

I have a 5060ti machine and a 5090, the 5060ti low end card is far more impressive for how capable it is for the price and position it holds in the product stack to me, even though it has massively less performance.

End of the day, it's just a simple way to rate performance levels and no one should be upset about it until you fall into the 'potato' category, at which point you should think about an upgrade.