my questions !
1- will that effect my cpu life for worst or better?
2- is 5.1ghz to much will that make my cpu worst over time because the fast speed?
i noticed my temps way lower even at this high speed
the game i used to test
1-monster hunter wilds
2-fornite
3-unreal engine 5 games

I see no issues with your configuration OP, all is good, almost too good.

The only issues that you would ever see when doing anything regarding these matters, usually is overclocking and terrible heat dissipation.

If undervolting/underclocking/overclocking is stable and you see stable temperatures under the CPU bridge max of 70°C, you are fine (73°C is also fine, even spikes over 85°C is fine as long as it is not stable in this temperature range for long, or crashing, or stuttering while hitting these temps).

The target CPU temperature on load is 70°C or under (best if CPU remains under 70°C).

When tweaking a CPU, GPU, or RAM, when you see stability and no weird issues, you done good, almost too good, so applaud yourself OP and not question yourself.

"noticed cpu don't go over 73C before it used to go 77c and 83C max temp" = Win

It is my "expert" opinion not to change any settings OP, you're golden.

Whatever undervolting/underclocking you have done OP, is extremely great and I kinda envy you as I hate undervolting because I am an OC'er, so I will applaude you as well.

Originally posted by Alice Liddell:

The only issues that you would ever see when doing anything, usually is overclocking and terrible heat dissipation.

If undervolting/underclocking is stable and you see stable temperatures under the CPU bridge max of 70°C, you are fine (73°C is also fine, even spikes over 85°C is fine as long as it is not stable in this temperature range for long, or crashing, or stuttering while hitting these temps).

The target CPU temperature on load is 70°C or under (best if CPU remains under 70°C).

When tweaking a CPU, GPU, or RAM, when you see stability and no weird issues, you done good, almost too good, so applaud yourself OP and not question yourself.

"noticed cpu don't go over 73C before it used to go 77c and 83C max temp" = Win

It is my "expert" opinion not to change any settings OP, you're golden.

Whatever underclocking you have done OP, is extremely great and I kinda envy you as I hate undervolting because I am an OC'er.

am using HWiNFO while playing monster hunter wilds my cpu temps was 60c and highest was 66.2C
but gpu was 71C because how power optimized the game is which is the only game overheat my gpu that much

the old under volt was at 1.28V with auto speed and temps used to get 77c to 84C
but now it seems i don't reach that level at all at 1.1V with 5.1 GHZ so that's good right?
i did some research this cpu the normal temps is 50c to 95c for the cpu

Sound like terrible cooling & airflow is part of the problem. Even if all stable that seems quite high for a 9700X. Those are temps you'd generally get with 9800X3D or the Ryzen 99xx models

Originally posted by Cat:

Originally posted by Alice Liddell:

The only issues that you would ever see when doing anything, usually is overclocking and terrible heat dissipation.

If undervolting/underclocking is stable and you see stable temperatures under the CPU bridge max of 70°C, you are fine (73°C is also fine, even spikes over 85°C is fine as long as it is not stable in this temperature range for long, or crashing, or stuttering while hitting these temps).

The target CPU temperature on load is 70°C or under (best if CPU remains under 70°C).

When tweaking a CPU, GPU, or RAM, when you see stability and no weird issues, you done good, almost too good, so applaud yourself OP and not question yourself.

"noticed cpu don't go over 73C before it used to go 77c and 83C max temp" = Win

It is my "expert" opinion not to change any settings OP, you're golden.

Whatever underclocking you have done OP, is extremely great and I kinda envy you as I hate undervolting because I am an OC'er.

am using HWiNFO while playing monster hunter wilds my cpu temps was 60c and highest was 66.2C
but gpu was 71C because how power optimized the game is which is the only game overheat my gpu that much

the old under volt was at 1.28V with auto speed and temps used to get 77c to 84C
but now it seems i don't reach that level at all at 1.1V with 5.1 GHZ so that's good right?
i did some research this cpu i have normal temps is 50c to 95c

All is fine plus that GPU can be warmer but better at lower temps while running high Mhz.

The CPU should be cooler even though it's limits are 95°C that is it's limit but should never be stable above 75°C (70°C is best).


Lower voltage, lower temps = good, if stable and remains stable.

Like I said, the only issue when manually volting or clocking is with temperatures exceeding recommendations/limits.

Stability is another thing which may, or may not, include heat dissipation.

Overvolting, which is never recommended, is your extreme opposite here.

Heat and pushing too much voltage, are the killers mostly, which is a simpler answer to your question, OP.

You could even say that undervolting/underclocking is safer than overclocking/overvolting.

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Sound like terrible cooling & airflow is part of the problem. Even if all stable that seems quite high for a 9700X. Those are temps you'd generally get with 9800X3D or the Ryzen 99xx models

Most people use mid-towers. I recommend full tower cases for maximum airflow.

I would also like to add that the Ryzen 9 5950x (Am4) is temp hitting 89°C at fractions without faults at full voltage, so it seems they run higher in temps at fraction time (about 1ms but never on-load, always random even in idle but only once per session).

The on-load normal temperature (stable) for the R9 5950x is 60°C (with a single 1ms spike per session at 89°C → zero crash nor instability).

The AMD Ryzen 7 1800x never hit over 70°C, for the record on maximum load even while pushing +120% power.

Only issues as of now are Unity games with terrible resolution code and/or multiple screen display code issues (all is very well with UE4/5).

Windows 10 → KB5064794 (Net Framework) and KB5062649 (Windows Update) are trash and can cause issues on older, and quite possibly, newer systems which includes but is not limited to; multiple display issues/multiple resolution issues (testing is ongoing - to date).

as long as its stable and not throttling its fine

undervolting follows same rules as overclocking

hot + unstable = lower overclock
hot + stable = lower core voltage
cold + unstable = raise core voltage
cold + stable = raise overclock

write down results see what works best for your cpu/gpu
every piece of silicon is different, thats why its called 'silicon lottery'

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Sound like terrible cooling & airflow is part of the problem. Even if all stable that seems quite high for a 9700X. Those are temps you'd generally get with 9800X3D or the Ryzen 99xx models

I dont know what 9800X3D youre using but mine barely reaches 55 while gaming if you want to talk airflow. OP is probably running an air cooler for one, two, thing is you THINK you know all which is excruciatingly annoying and three, maybe say something constructive for a change

Originally posted by CappaDecated:

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Sound like terrible cooling & airflow is part of the problem. Even if all stable that seems quite high for a 9700X. Those are temps you'd generally get with 9800X3D or the Ryzen 99xx models

I dont know what 9800X3D youre using but mine barely reaches 55 while gaming if you want to talk airflow. OP is probably running an air cooler

This is also a great point as usually we do not exclaim our personal cooling solutions at will.

I use a dual heatsink/dual fan air cooling solution max about 140,2 m³/h → 82.52 CFM.

As a note (my personal and specific cooling solution is listed below):

https://noctua.at/en/nh-d15.html

Cooling solution (and GPU cooling solution) does matter a lot.

Special Bonus (converter for airflow in m³/h to CFM and/or vice-versa):

https://faqs.noctua.at/en/support/solutions/articles/101000346998

Originally posted by CappaDecated:

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Sound like terrible cooling & airflow is part of the problem. Even if all stable that seems quite high for a 9700X. Those are temps you'd generally get with 9800X3D or the Ryzen 99xx models

I dont know what 9800X3D youre using but mine barely reaches 55 while gaming if you want to talk airflow. OP is probably running an air cooler for one, two, thing is you THINK you know all which is excruciatingly annoying and three, maybe say something constructive for a change

Am using deep cool air cooler
I did stress test using app called OCCT
I did put it at extreme for 30 min while my cpu V was 1.1V and speed 5.1 GHZ pc did not crash or any errors but temps reached 85C at extreme the cpu used 120W

Also I did 30 min CPU+memory max temps reached 63.3C

After all of these tests I changed my cpu speed to 4.8ghz to stay at low temps and 1.1V and fast and stable

That 100% on testing will never happen while gaming right because its stress test

Originally posted by Alice Liddell:

Originally posted by Cat:

am using HWiNFO while playing monster hunter wilds my cpu temps was 60c and highest was 66.2C
but gpu was 71C because how power optimized the game is which is the only game overheat my gpu that much

the old under volt was at 1.28V with auto speed and temps used to get 77c to 84C
but now it seems i don't reach that level at all at 1.1V with 5.1 GHZ so that's good right?
i did some research this cpu i have normal temps is 50c to 95c

All is fine plus that GPU can be warmer but better at lower temps while running high Mhz.

The CPU should be cooler even though it's limits are 95°C that is it's limit but should never be stable above 75°C (70°C is best).

Further Notation: 1.1v is the standard voltage for all Ryzen CPU's and some boards will go lower which is never proper at 0.8v (please do not even attempt this low voltage, at discretion). 1.1v is standard and is best, never below and it seems, never sometimes above nor at 1.28v, depending on motherboard and system configuration as is but I never found issues with 1.1v, only 0.8v and as OP stated, 1.28v which is the newer standard on some AMD 4/5 boards, as so it seems in detail.

Lower voltage, lower temps = good, if stable and remains stable.

Like I said, the only issue when manually volting or clocking is with temperatures exceeding recommendations/limits.

Stability is another thing which may, or may not, include heat dissipation.

Overvolting, which is never recommended, is your extreme opposite here.

Heat and pushing too much voltage, are the killers mostly, which is a simpler answer to your question, OP.

You could even say that undervolting/underclocking is safer than overclocking/overvolting.

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Sound like terrible cooling & airflow is part of the problem. Even if all stable that seems quite high for a 9700X. Those are temps you'd generally get with 9800X3D or the Ryzen 99xx models

Most people use mid-towers. I recommend full tower cases for maximum airflow.

I would also like to add that the Ryzen 9 5950x (Am4) is temp hitting 89°C at fractions without faults at full voltage, so it seems they run higher in temps at fraction time (about 1ms but never on-load, always random even in idle but only once per session).

The on-load normal temperature (stable) for the R9 5950x is 60°C (with a single 1ms spike per session at 89°C → zero crash nor instability).

The AMD Ryzen 7 1800x never hit over 70°C, for the record on maximum load even while pushing +120% power.

Only issues as of now are Unity games with terrible resolution code and/or multiple screen display code issues (all is very well with UE4/5).

Windows 10 → KB5064794 (Net Framework) and KB5062649 (Windows Update) are trash and can cause issues on older, and quite possibly, newer systems which includes but is not limited to; multiple display issues/multiple resolution issues (testing is ongoing - to date).

Mother bored am using is B850m

I undervolt all my hardware because it's genuinely ignorant to let it run at stock settings.

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Sound like terrible cooling & airflow is part of the problem. Even if all stable that seems quite high for a 9700X. Those are temps you'd generally get with 9800X3D or the Ryzen 99xx models

That thick ihs on am5 is the reason. I had an aio on my 7800x3d and had to aggressively undervolt it just to keep below 75c.
Apparently they have reduced the height for the 9800x3d and moved the vcache stack below the ccd which is the reason why it stays that cool.

Originally posted by Alice Liddell:

You could even say that undervolting/underclocking is safer than overclocking/overvolting.

I miss them days of overclocking, I don't even bother now it's so boring, favourite was the i7 930 pumping 1.35v through it to go from 2.8GHz to 4.2GHz

Originally posted by CappaDecated:

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Sound like terrible cooling & airflow is part of the problem. Even if all stable that seems quite high for a 9700X. Those are temps you'd generally get with 9800X3D or the Ryzen 99xx models

I dont know what 9800X3D youre using but mine barely reaches 55 while gaming if you want to talk airflow. OP is probably running an air cooler for one, two, thing is you THINK you know all which is excruciatingly annoying and three, maybe say something constructive for a change

Yeah just ran CP2077 for 10 mins 60% load on the CPU (true reading I have SMT off) and it hit 48c, same CPU.

Originally posted by Cat:

i under volt my cpu to 1.1V on amd ryzen 7 9700x with speed of 5.1 GHZ is that bad?
i tested monster hunter wilds and others game for over 10 min and did not crash and noticed cpu don't go over 73C before it used to go 77c and 83C max temp but rare
is high ghz speed bad for cpu should i change to auto ?

Yeah if it's getting so warm it's probably a bad case for air flow or a poor cooler or combination of both, if Wilds is taxing the CPU at say 90% use then 77c isn't that bad.

Originally posted by Arbiter of mediocrity:

Apparently they have reduced the height for the 9800x3d and moved the vcache stack below the ccd which is the reason why it stays that cool.

Good point, I know they did on mine but I never thought about the rest and was assuming the same thinner IHS was used, so yeah if it's the thicker IHS then that's about right.