Buying new PC
Started my job for few months now, ready to upgrade. For context, I'm not in USA and not good with abbreviation and no plans to overclock just plug and use. This is the local shop quotation:
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USD$
AMD Ryzen 5 7600 6C/12T Processor AM5
~373
Asus TUF Gaming B650M-E Wi-Fi AM5 MB
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Crucial 5600MHz 16GB DRR5 (LLT)
~48
Kioxia Exceria PRO 1TB M.2 Gen 4 NVMe SSD
~81
XFX Swift RX 9060 XT Gaming 2 Fan 16GB OC
~407
Gigabyte P650G 650W Gold
~66
Silverstone Lucid 04 Argb M-atx White Case
~66
Thermalright Assassin X 120 R Digital Cooler White
~29
MSI 24" G2422C 180Hz Curved Gaming Monitor
~118
Installation
15

Are there any bottleneck issue?

Is 16GB RAM enough for year 2025 2026 2027? Is it better to have 1 stick of 32GB or 2 stick of 16GB?

Is the GPU potential close to maximize in this build?

Which part is most likely to change in the future?

Are there any parts get way overcharge?

Thank you.
Last edited by Thain; 23 hours ago
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can you buy decent PSU like Seasonic, and good SSD, SSD like fragile little baby need the good one
I also think you should buy best brands - psu and ssd.
Also get a 2TB SSD.
I wouldn't buy a 1080p monitor, nor anything 24" curved.
RAM should be bought in pairs.
The gpu is low end.

I guess it depends on the budget that you have - and also the type of games that you want to play.
_I_ 22 hours ago 
where is that from?

whats your budget and location?
are you near a microcenter?

if the build is around $1000 usd (before the monitor), start with something more like this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w3Y96Q
pick edit and change parts as you desire

more vram on the 9060xt doesnt make it any stronger
https://technical.city/en/video/Radeon-RX-9060-XT-8-GB-vs-Radeon-RX-9060-XT-16-GB
would be better for cad or non gaming where more vram would be useful, but games need faster or more gpu cores to make use of more vram

get a 2x16g 6000+ cl30- kit, so it runs in dual channel

$15 to assemble isnt bad, but you can do it in an hour or two, maybe 3 if new at it
Fake 20 hours ago 
For the price of your cpu, you could build an Intel Core Ultra 265k and a Z890 motherboard. As for GPU, wait for the Intel Arc B780 that should be released around Dec.

The B780 supposedly have the performance between an RTX 5070 and RTX 5080 and is priced at $399.

It's 2025 and Intel is the budget friendly option. Make that make sense.
Originally posted by Thain:
Are there any bottleneck issue?
Define "issue".

Bottlenecks always exist. They only matter if your performance is lower than you desire, in which case you upgrade the part most responsible for that lack of performance so that you can upgrade it.
Originally posted by Thain:
Is 16GB RAM enough for year 2025 2026 2027? Is it better to have 1 stick of 32GB or 2 stick of 16GB?
Nobody knows what your workload will be like at all, let alone years from now. For some people, 16 GB isn't enough now. For others, it will still be enough in 2030. There is no singular answer here. We can't predict your future.

That being said, the only way to get less than 32 GB of RAM on a DDR5 platform is if one of the following is true...

1. You have one DIMM. This means you're not utilizing dual channel, which means there will be a performance loss.

2. You have awkward 8 GB DIMMs, which on DDR5 can mean a pretty substantial performance loss as they are using less chips and thus have less internal bandwidth.

Generally, do not go with less than 32 GB on a DDR5 platform unless it's for a low needs, general purpose PC or something where performance doesn't matter as much.

I would generally try to get 6,000 MHz CL30 for AM5, but that's not too far behind and you can't always control everything with prebuilts, so it's fine enough. I would get 2x 16 GB though.
Originally posted by Thain:
Which part is most likely to change in the future?
That's up to what your uses need more of first.
Last edited by Illusion of Progress; 19 hours ago
Monk 19 hours ago 
I'd not get a 7000 series cpu, the price to go to a 9600x or 9700x (best performance per dollar cpu in general abd generally is cheaper than you are being quoted gir a 7600x)

You also want 6000 cl28 or 30 memory, again, it doesn't cost much extra, id go with 2 16GB sticks these days, again, doesn't cost much more.

Save up a bit more and go with a 5060ti 16GB over a 9060xt, the tech is simply better and has far more support so is worth the extra cash.

I'd not e er buy a gigabyte psu, they gave a history of being slightly 'explodey' abd I've never heard of the nvme, go with a mainstream brand, it's not like that one is even cheap.

Overall, I think thst shop is trying to pawn old stick off on you gir a premium price, id watch some videos abd build it yourself or find a new store that either knows what they are doing or us not trying to taje advantage of you.

Good luck.

Oh abd curved monitors on anything that isn't ultra wide like 34 inch plus are nit needed abd would be distracting to me.
pasa 18 hours ago 
cpu: 7600X or 9600x
ram: 2x16 6000, preferably with EXPO and make sure is on mobo compat list
I'm not familiar with you psu and case.

I have an asus TUF b650 am5 board, takes almost a minute to train ram at boot. fortunately that box is rebooted only few times a year, other times its in sleep.

And yeah, 1T storage is not too much these days, but you can easily amend it late on.
Double the RAM and see if they can upgrade the CPU cooler.

My general rule of thumb is you want twice as much system RAM as you have vRAM, and in 2025 you want a minimum of 16GB of vRAM.
_I_ 17 hours ago 
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Double the RAM and see if they can upgrade the CPU cooler.

My general rule of thumb is you want twice as much system RAM as you have vRAM, and in 2025 you want a minimum of 16GB of vRAM.
more vram does not make a better gpu

4060 ti 8g vs 16g = same results
https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-RTX-4060-Ti-16-GB-vs-GeForce-RTX-4060-Ti
5060 ti 8g vs 16g = same
https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-RTX-5060-Ti-16-GB-vs-GeForce-RTX-5060-Ti-8-GB

please stop spewing bs
Monk 17 hours ago 
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Double the RAM and see if they can upgrade the CPU cooler.

My general rule of thumb is you want twice as much system RAM as you have vRAM, and in 2025 you want a minimum of 16GB of vRAM.

The double ram to vram is very random and has zero basis in anything relevant, please dont start derailing another thread because you do t know what you are on about.
Simple stuff first by parts.

PSU.
Originally posted by ˢᵈˣ FatCat:
can you buy decent PSU like Seasonic,

Originally posted by hawkeye:
I also think you should buy best brands - psu

I guess it depends on the budget that you have - and also the type of games that you want to play.

Originally posted by Monk:
I'd not e er buy a gigabyte psu, they gave a history of being slightly 'explodey' abd I've never heard of the nvme, go with a mainstream brand, it's not like that one is even cheap.

Noted. Never realize there are more factors to consider other than watts requirement. I also don't know what mainstream/best brands.

Storage.
Originally posted by ˢᵈˣ FatCat:
can you buy decent PSU like Seasonic, and good SSD, SSD like fragile little baby need the good one

Originally posted by hawkeye:
I also think you should buy best brands - ssd.
Also get a 2TB SSD.

I guess it depends on the budget that you have - and also the type of games that you want to play.

Noted. I have never used more than 500GB including cloud combine. I was thinking 1TB is too much when they quote me. Did not realize AAA games these days are huge.

Monitor.
Originally posted by hawkeye:
I wouldn't buy a 1080p monitor, nor anything 24" curved.

I guess it depends on the budget that you have - and also the type of games that you want to play.

Originally posted by Monk:
Oh abd curved monitors on anything that isn't ultra wide like 34 inch plus are nit needed abd would be distracting to me.

Actually I have space constraint. 24" is the max I can go and there are not many 24" 1440p that is budget friendly. The curved thingy I have also asked the shop keeper the benefit, his reply was to bring things closer. Honestly did not care much as I wanted to get a 2nd hand 1080p screen and years later upgrade buy new screen when I don't have that space constraint. Monitor is like the first thing I will change after a period of time.

RAM.
Originally posted by hawkeye:
RAM should be bought in pairs.

I guess it depends on the budget that you have - and also the type of games that you want to play.

Originally posted by _I_:
get a 2x16g 6000+ cl30- kit, so it runs in dual channel

Originally posted by Illusion of Progress:
Nobody knows what your workload will be like at all, let alone years from now. For some people, 16 GB isn't enough now. For others, it will still be enough in 2030. There is no singular answer here. We can't predict your future.

That being said, the only way to get less than 32 GB of RAM on a DDR5 platform is if one of the following is true...

1. You have one DIMM. This means you're not utilizing dual channel, which means there will be a performance loss.

2. You have awkward 8 GB DIMMs, which on DDR5 can mean a pretty substantial performance loss as they are using less chips and thus have less internal bandwidth.

Generally, do not go with less than 32 GB on a DDR5 platform unless it's for a low needs, general purpose PC or something where performance doesn't matter as much.

I would generally try to get 6,000 MHz CL30 for AM5, but that's not too far behind and you can't always control everything with prebuilts, so it's fine enough. I would get 2x 16 GB though.

Originally posted by Monk:
You also want 6000 cl28 or 30 memory, again, it doesn't cost much extra, id go with 2 16GB sticks these days, again, doesn't cost much more.

Noted. Get 2, 16GB with 6000MHz.
Originally posted by _I_:
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Double the RAM and see if they can upgrade the CPU cooler.

My general rule of thumb is you want twice as much system RAM as you have vRAM, and in 2025 you want a minimum of 16GB of vRAM.
more vram does not make a better gpu

4060 ti 8g vs 16g = same results
https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-RTX-4060-Ti-16-GB-vs-GeForce-RTX-4060-Ti
5060 ti 8g vs 16g = same
https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-RTX-5060-Ti-16-GB-vs-GeForce-RTX-5060-Ti-8-GB

please stop spewing bs
Games regularly use more than 8 GB of vRAM. If you are playing a game that uses less than 8GB, the performance will be the same. If you play one that uses more, you get diminished performance as system RAM is slower, and the extra usage gets pushed to system RAM instead.

https://youtu.be/ZLtlZnWZGt0?si=AR3Uba6lov5C7Al_

Video is mostly about pricing, but they mention that 8GB vRAM is junk. They also reiterate this across multiple videos.

They literally say that 8GB models SHOULD NOT EXIST, so yeah...
Last edited by D. Flame; 16 hours ago
_I_ 16 hours ago 
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Originally posted by _I_:
more vram does not make a better gpu

4060 ti 8g vs 16g = same results
https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-RTX-4060-Ti-16-GB-vs-GeForce-RTX-4060-Ti
5060 ti 8g vs 16g = same
https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-RTX-5060-Ti-16-GB-vs-GeForce-RTX-5060-Ti-8-GB

please stop spewing bs
Games regularly use more than 8 GB of vRAM. If you are playing a game that uses less than 8GB, the performance will be the same. If you play one that uses more, you get diminished performance as system RAM is slower, and the extra usage gets pushed to system RAM instead.

https://youtu.be/ZLtlZnWZGt0?si=AR3Uba6lov5C7Al_
if you need more than 8g of vram, get a gpu that performs better with more than 8g of vram

the only real exception was the 1060 3 vs 6g, because they were effectively different gpu cores
6g variant has more cores and tmus that actually made it a stronger gpu

low tier gpus often have variants with more vram to make them seem better, because bigger number on the box looks better
GPU.
Originally posted by hawkeye:
The gpu is low end.

I guess it depends on the budget that you have - and also the type of games that you want to play.

Originally posted by _I_:
more vram on the 9060xt doesnt make it any stronger
https://technical.city/en/video/Radeon-RX-9060-XT-8-GB-vs-Radeon-RX-9060-XT-16-GB
would be better for cad or non gaming where more vram would be useful, but games need faster or more gpu cores to make use of more vram

Originally posted by Fake:
As for GPU, wait for the Intel Arc B780 that should be released around Dec. The B780 supposedly have the performance between an RTX 5070 and RTX 5080 and is priced at $399.

It's 2025 and Intel is the budget friendly option. Make that make sense.

Originally posted by Monk:
Save up a bit more and go with a 5060ti 16GB over a 9060xt, the tech is simply better and has far more support so is worth the extra cash.

Been using Intel+NVIDIA all these time, wanted to give AMD a chance. It was either 9070 XT or 9060 XT. 9070 is way off my budget after calculating. Between 8 and 16GB, I was thinking 8 GB may not be enough in next 2 years with so many games getting more demanding each year. So I took 16 GB without realizing it is below average to low.

Arc B780 is something new, but don't know if I want to wait that long.
Last edited by Thain; 16 hours ago
_I_ 16 hours ago 
a gpu that can use 16g is going to be over half of the budget if its around $1000usd total

nothing wrong with getting a 9060xt, 4060ti or 5060ti 8g gpu
the 16g versions of those are not any better than 8g

you can upgrade it easily in the future when you need a stronger gpu
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