Mouse + Left-Hand Controller: Hybrid Alternative to Mouse + Keyboard
Hey all! 👋
I wanted to start a discussion on a topic that doesn’t get much coverage, despite how promising it is — hybrid control schemes (particularly for shooters), where you use a mouse for aiming and a controller (or similar device) in the left hand for movement.

Potential Left-hand devices (what I found so far):
  • Left Joycon
  • Left Doyoky® Controller
  • Left Hori® Controller
  • Left Mobapad® M6
  • Grifta® Morphing Gamepad
  • Left VR Controller
  • Wii-Nunchuk or Wii-Remote
  • Xbox Adaptive Joystick
  • PS Move® Navigation Controller
  • Splitfish® FragFX Controller
  • Razer Orbweaver/Tartarus
  • Azeron Cyborg® Gaming Keypad
  • Simply a regular Gamepad (only using left part)

Has anyone tried out one of those? What are your experiences? How do you manage to press other buttons without interupting running/stick input? Which Software do you use? Did you run into any software issues or other drawbacks? Which keys do you map to which buttons? Did you experience input delays? Please feel free to add your thoughts on this topic! 👾😁
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Dryspace 28 May @ 12:08am 
I just don't see how this makes any sense. On one hand, you're not gaining any significant benefit by using a stick instead of keys for movement.

On the other hand your left hand now has access to maybe 2 or 3 buttons instead of ~23 keys. And those 23 keys are just the ones that are available without moving your hand.

Further, you don't want to get used to a control scheme that's not compatible with all games. I'm sure there are many games that won't correctly detect a gamepad.

Even further, gamepad controllers aren't designed to be held by only one hand --- it seems like it would be awkward, though I suppose a person can get used to it.
Last edited by Dryspace; 28 May @ 7:57pm
C1REX 28 May @ 2:57am 
Originally posted by DingleSpitz:
Has anyone tried out one of those?
I've tried this a long time ago for Quake3.
It's not that deep - just use any controller for movement and a mouse for camera/aiming.
No need for a single handed specific devices as any controller will do if you are OK with number of buttons on left side.

If for some reason a game makes problems you can use a 3rd party app and change controller inputs to act like WSAD keyboard inputs. But most games should just work.
Dryspace 28 May @ 7:57pm 
Originally posted by C1REX:
I've tried this a long time ago for Quake3...

Twenty-plus years ago there were people who tried playing Unreal Tournament, etc. with actual joysticks. Like you said, any analog (or pseudo-analog) controller is basically the same input, if not the same experience/control.

But not only do I not see an advantage, a binary control with a constant max speed seems the superior method for quick and agile control.
C1REX 29 May @ 1:45am 
Originally posted by Dryspace:
Originally posted by C1REX:
I've tried this a long time ago for Quake3...

Twenty-plus years ago there were people who tried playing Unreal Tournament, etc. with actual joysticks. Like you said, any analog (or pseudo-analog) controller is basically the same input, if not the same experience/control.

But not only do I not see an advantage, a binary control with a constant max speed seems the superior method for quick and agile control.
You can use dpad for WSAD controls. Ps1 gamepads I’ve tested didn’t even have analog sticks.
Dryspace 29 May @ 10:27pm 
Originally posted by C1REX:
You can use dpad for WSAD controls.

Well, yes... But then I don't understand the reason for trying to use a controller instead of a KB in the first place. Am I misunderstanding something?
I have used the Belkin N50 (no longer made) for over 20 years now. I sucked at gaming using a keyboard for movement. The Dpad on the N50 was a game changer. They are always available on ebay. The updated N52 is also an option. It gives you more keys but I don't like the ergonomics of it as much as the N50. The Razer version of the Belkin design is unusable because the dpad movement is totally different.
Originally posted by DingleSpitz:
Hey all! 👋
I wanted to start a discussion on a topic that doesn’t get much coverage, despite how promising it is — hybrid control schemes (particularly for shooters), where you use a mouse for aiming and a controller (or similar device) in the left hand for movement.

Potential Left-hand devices (what I found so far):
  • Left Joycon
  • Left Doyoky® Controller
  • Left Hori® Controller
  • Left Mobapad® M6
  • Grifta® Morphing Gamepad
  • Left VR Controller
  • Wii-Nunchuk or Wii-Remote
  • Xbox Adaptive Joystick
  • PS Move® Navigation Controller
  • Splitfish® FragFX Controller
  • Razer Orbweaver/Tartarus
  • Azeron Cyborg® Gaming Keypad
  • Simply a regular Gamepad (only using left part)

Has anyone tried out one of those? What are your experiences? How do you manage to press other buttons without interupting running/stick input? Which Software do you use? Did you run into any software issues or other drawbacks? Which keys do you map to which buttons? Did you experience input delays? Please feel free to add your thoughts on this topic! 👾😁

I have been using an Azeron key pad for a number of years now and its genuinely awesome.

My only gripes are :

It cant be wireless, without lots of messing about.
Cable is a little short.
Quite expensive £200
Games don't recognise the analogue stick, well they do, but think its an xbox, but using the thumb stick to just mimic wsad, works perfectly fine.
And it takes a while to learn it, even now after 5+ years of using Azeron I still forget what some keys are, but thats 100% me.

However if I could be bothered I am sure there is a way to make it work.

It's plug and play and very easy to set up and to keep it easy for me, I just set the thing up with the most common PC controls I have 28 buttons and thumb stick to configure.

I combine this with a G502 mouse and I only need to reach for the keyboard for F keys and a few other awkward keys that sometimes get used.

I rarely have to do any rebinds as I seem to have set set the Azeron profile up pretty well.

You can set up other profiles for other games if you want, I did try this feature for a bit, but decided to just make the mapping on the Azeron the same for all games and it works great for most if not all the games I play.

I can't recommend this controller enough

Its almost fully adjustable
can get them it whatever colours you want
Software is great
Build quality is great.
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