New build unsure about power supply & cooling.
I going for my first high end build. over the last few weeks and days i changed my mind alot about the parts . But this is my last idea...

Case - Fractal Design Torrent White RGB TG Clear
Motherboard - MPG X870E EDGE TI WIFI
CPU - Ryzen 9 9950X3D
Cooler - MasterAir MA824 Stealth (or be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 5)
GPU - ROG Astral GeForce RTX 5080 16GB GDDR7 OC
SSD - 2x Samsung 9100 Pro 2TB
RAM - Corsair Vengeance 32GB 6000 DDR5 2025
Power - be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 Watt

But i am unsure about CPU cooling and power. I think 850watt is enough. is 1000watt beneficial & what brands are better?

regarding the cooling. is this enough to cool a 9950X3D? and what is the best non-liquid cooler regardless of money.
Last edited by Xamurai; 6 Oct @ 8:20pm
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What is your usecase? If it's primarily gaming you'd be better off saving the money on the 9950X3D and getting the 9800X3D; same with the X870E board. With what you've got listed here for parts there isn't much of a reason to pay the significant additional cost for an X870E board for the extra IO.

In regards to the PSU imo just get a SeaSonic directly rather than an OEM rebrand of either an FSP, CWT, or SeaSonic (the 3 vendors most "white label" PSU vendors like be quiet! use for their PSUs). For your build I'd go with a 1000W; probably best option would be the SeaSonic Prime PX 1000 ATX3.1 model.

Also if it's primarily for gaming the Samsung 9100 Pro SSDs are overkill as well. If you're wanting something that is a faster system disk I'd also look at the crucial T710 as it has higher random read IOPS (which is better for gaming) than the 9100, but the 9100 has higher write IOPS; both are effectively the same in terms of throughput.

For cooler I tend to lean toward the Arctic Freezer III 280/360/420 AIOs for less potential clearance issues with memory; but if you definitely want to go with an air cooler those two are pretty good. AMD recommends an AIO or liquid cooler for optimal performance though so I'd still lean toward that; especially if you are going to stick with the 9950X3D.
Monk 6 Oct @ 6:03pm 
I'll second what poppinnhas said, but add in that buying a 5080 astral is just plain stupid and a waste of money, get the cheapest model, you'll notice no difference and save a bunch of cash.

I mean it's 500 bucks over other models and it's only benefit is monitoring of the power input really, which isn't any use unless you are planning to run xoc boos or power mod the cards.

Looking at it, if you aren't doing serious editing and professional work you won't benefit from a 9950x3d or gen5 nvme's, no real. Need for the x870e mobo either, if you dropped these down a bit you could actually fit in a 5090 instead of a 5080, for the same rough price, which, if the system is primarily for gaming, which given you are asking her is a good chance of, 2ould be a far better investment and lead to a much better experience.
Xamurai 6 Oct @ 6:17pm 
I did choose the case for many reasons. First of all it looked one of the better cases regarding cool temps (secondary i liked the design, and huge dust filters that can be detached easily from every intake side, noise wasn't to bad either)

From my information i got. This case is a bit more expensive but has have very good stock fans.
With a hugh air intake at the bottom and the front. The reason i didn't choose a IAO is the top is blocked by the power supply. So basically i have to remove the fron't fan with the AIO's fan/radiator. It felt like a waste. thats why i tended to go for non liquid solutions...
Monk 6 Oct @ 6:19pm 
We were after your main use case of the system, not which case you wanted to run.
When I said usecase I mean how do you intend to use the system; not the case as in the chassis you are planning to get to install the components into.

usecase = gaming, productivity, video editing, etc.

EDIT: in regards to the case I'd actually swap that to the North XL over the torrent and use an Arctic Freezer III 420 Pro mounted in the front as intake and put 3 fans in the top as exhaust. Just make sure that you don't get the RC versions (those are for motherboards with rear power and IO connectors).
Last edited by PopinFRESH; 6 Oct @ 6:24pm
Xamurai 6 Oct @ 6:23pm 
Originally posted by Monk:
I'll second what poppinnhas said, but add in that buying a 5080 astral is just plain stupid and a waste of money, get the cheapest model, you'll notice no difference and save a bunch of cash.

I mean it's 500 bucks over other models and it's only benefit is monitoring of the power input really, which isn't any use unless you are planning to run xoc boos or power mod the cards.

Looking at it, if you aren't doing serious editing and professional work you won't benefit from a 9950x3d or gen5 nvme's, no real. Need for the x870e mobo either, if you dropped these down a bit you could actually fit in a 5090 instead of a 5080, for the same rough price, which, if the system is primarily for gaming, which given you are asking her is a good chance of, 2ould be a far better investment and lead to a much better experience.

at my loccal vendor its rather 200 bucks more expensive. Going to entry level 5090's(msi ventus) is like +800/900.
Xamurai 6 Oct @ 6:24pm 
Originally posted by PopinFRESH:
When I said usecase I mean how do you intend to use the system; not the case as in the chassis you are planning to get to install the components into.

usecase = gaming, productivity, video editing, etc.

EDIT: in regards to the case I'd actually swap that to the North XL over the torrent and use an Arctic Freezer III 420 Pro mounted in the front as intake and put 3 fans in the top as exhaust.



usecase: primary gaming and simulations.

I was not answer the usecase question, i tried to explain badly my reasoning why i choose non-liquid cooling rather than IAO...
Last edited by Xamurai; 6 Oct @ 6:28pm
Monk 6 Oct @ 6:28pm 
Hmm, here an entry 5080 is 1000, an astral. Is 1500 and you can get 5090's at 2000/2100, the difference would easily be covered by a 9800x3d instead of a 9950x3d (if the system is for mainly gaming), swapping gen5 nvme's to gen4, dropping from an x870e to a x870 or b850, though I'd look to a 1000w psu with current build and 1200 ish for a 5090 build.

If the local price is only a couple hundred different to the astral, that isn't as bad, is it a local shop or online you are looking?
Xamurai 6 Oct @ 6:31pm 
Originally posted by PopinFRESH:
When I said usecase I mean how do you intend to use the system; not the case as in the chassis you are planning to get to install the components into.

usecase = gaming, productivity, video editing, etc.

EDIT: in regards to the case I'd actually swap that to the North XL over the torrent and use an Arctic Freezer III 420 Pro mounted in the front as intake and put 3 fans in the top as exhaust. Just make sure that you don't get the RC versions (those are for motherboards with rear power and IO connectors).

Yeah the Norht XL was one of my first choices. However when i saw alot of reviews who had issues with load fans caused by the wooden grill?
Xamurai 6 Oct @ 6:34pm 
Originally posted by Monk:
If the local price is only a couple hundred different to the astral, that isn't as bad, is it a local shop or online you are looking?

Local, but i am EU based. convert prices a little bit.
Originally posted by Xamurai:
Originally posted by PopinFRESH:
When I said usecase I mean how do you intend to use the system; not the case as in the chassis you are planning to get to install the components into.

usecase = gaming, productivity, video editing, etc.

EDIT: in regards to the case I'd actually swap that to the North XL over the torrent and use an Arctic Freezer III 420 Pro mounted in the front as intake and put 3 fans in the top as exhaust. Just make sure that you don't get the RC versions (those are for motherboards with rear power and IO connectors).

Yeah the Norht XL was one of my first choices. However when i saw alot of reviews who had issues with load fans caused by the wooden grill?
They are doing it wrong then. The wood grill on the front allows for plenty of airflow and standard case fans fit perfectly fine as it's designed.

Alternatively you can use the included front 140 case fans and get the Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360 Pro and mount it in the top with the fans as exhaust.

EDIT: Oh... I think you mean loud (as in noise?). Using the 3x 140mm case fans as intake with a 360 AIO in the top as exhaust it's very quiet if you have reasonable fan curves setup.
Last edited by PopinFRESH; 6 Oct @ 6:43pm
Xamurai 6 Oct @ 6:48pm 
Originally posted by Monk:
dropping from an x870e to a x870 or b850, though I'd look to a 1000w psu with current build and 1200 ish for a 5090 build.

1200? isn't that overkill even for 5090? The B850 had not alot USB ports and i need them. if x870 has enough of them sure thing.
Xamurai 6 Oct @ 6:53pm 
Originally posted by PopinFRESH:
Originally posted by Xamurai:

Yeah the Norht XL was one of my first choices. However when i saw alot of reviews who had issues with load fans caused by the wooden grill?
They are doing it wrong then. The wood grill on the front allows for plenty of airflow and standard case fans fit perfectly fine as it's designed.

Alternatively you can use the included front 140 case fans and get the Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360 Pro and mount it in the top with the fans as exhaust.

EDIT: Oh... I think you mean loud (as in noise?). Using the 3x 140mm case fans as intake with a 360 AIO in the top as exhaust it's very quiet if you have reasonable fan curves setup.

yes i ment noice. When they removed the grill the noice was better. But you convinced me to use a AIO. unfornatly at first glance i can't find the artic. Corsair, NZTX, MSI, etc are more popular here.
Last edited by Xamurai; 6 Oct @ 7:04pm
Originally posted by Xamurai:
Originally posted by PopinFRESH:
They are doing it wrong then. The wood grill on the front allows for plenty of airflow and standard case fans fit perfectly fine as it's designed.

Alternatively you can use the included front 140 case fans and get the Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360 Pro and mount it in the top with the fans as exhaust.

EDIT: Oh... I think you mean loud (as in noise?). Using the 3x 140mm case fans as intake with a 360 AIO in the top as exhaust it's very quiet if you have reasonable fan curves setup.

yes i ment noice. When they removed the grill the noice was better. But you convinced me to use a AIO. unfornatly at first glance i can't find the artic. Corsair, NZTX, MSI, etc are more popular here.

Thats odd in the EU since it's a German company and ship to all of the EU from there as far as I know. They are sell through Amazon directly so you should be able to find them on Amazon if you're country has distribution for Amazon.

Which country are you in if you don't mind?
Last edited by PopinFRESH; 6 Oct @ 7:09pm
Xamurai 6 Oct @ 7:15pm 
Could be they are temporary out of stock or something...and i quickly researched. I will search later. in more outlets & stores.
I never buy from Amazon apart from inexpensive things when not available anywhere else.
Never trusted to buy on Amazon specially for expensive PC parts.
Last edited by Xamurai; 6 Oct @ 7:15pm
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