build advice
Hi need some advice rethinking which cpu to buy for my first build, i intended to buy amd 9800x3d but wondering if there is a better option, need the cpu for general windows use and multitasking but also want excellent gaming results, if i had the money i would go for the 9950x3d but its currently about £200 more than the 9800x3d so too much. i like the gaming benchmarks on the 9800x3d but wonder if getting more cores would help me in windows and if i could save some money somewhere without losing much gaming performance.

current expected specs : 
9800x3d?
msi b850 edge ti
64gb ram
1/2 tb m.2 drive
850w/1000w psu
9070 xt
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Bryan999 22 Sep @ 8:36pm 
will be gaming at 1440p.
wing0zero 23 Sep @ 12:09am 
Will more cores help in Windows? Answer is no.

With a 9070XT you don't even need a X3D chip, you could save a bit on the normal variant.
_I_ 23 Sep @ 12:22am 
Originally posted by wing0zero:
Will more cores help in Windows? Answer is no.

With a 9070XT you don't even need a X3D chip, you could save a bit on the normal variant.
the x3d variant cpus help alot with games

more cores will help with heavily threaded tasks
(if you didnt know, windows is a heavily threaded os)

but games do not need that many cores/threads and like core performance
wing0zero 23 Sep @ 12:31am 
Originally posted by _I_:
Originally posted by wing0zero:
Will more cores help in Windows? Answer is no.

With a 9070XT you don't even need a X3D chip, you could save a bit on the normal variant.
the x3d variant cpus help alot with games

more cores will help with heavily threaded tasks
(if you didnt know, windows is a heavily threaded os)

but games do not need that many cores/threads and like core performance

More cores won't help with just Windows, going from 8 to 16 cores won't open FireFox quicker, he said Windows, now if he said I will be doing a ton of video editing at 4K and intensive 3D modeling then fair play, you know me though I go of the words he used in English.

And yeah sure X3D helps in games I own one myself but with a 5090, it's not needed as much for a 9070XT and a 9700X would work just fine for that GPU at 1440P, I say that as he put about saving.
the 9800x3d is the better choice, in my opinion

it is only a fraction slower on multitasking and the current king for gaming

and as you mentioned, a couple hundred bucks cheaper

all depends on if that slight difference is something you would need
wing0zero 23 Sep @ 12:37am 
Originally posted by 13119205187913161:
the 9800x3d is the better choice, in my opinion

it is only a fraction slower on multitasking and the current king for gaming

and as you mentioned, a couple hundred bucks cheaper

all depends on if that slight difference is something you would need
I always have the rule if you need to ask if you need it then you don't, you know if you need a 16 core CPU if you need one, this is a guy who is a bit paranoid with purchase regrets, you can see it in his other posts.
_I_ 23 Sep @ 1:14am 
Originally posted by wing0zero:
Originally posted by 13119205187913161:
the 9800x3d is the better choice, in my opinion

it is only a fraction slower on multitasking and the current king for gaming

and as you mentioned, a couple hundred bucks cheaper

all depends on if that slight difference is something you would need
I always have the rule if you need to ask if you need it then you don't, you know if you need a 16 core CPU if you need one, this is a guy who is a bit paranoid with purchase regrets, you can see it in his other posts.
check task manager and see how many processes windows is currently using
and then tell me that windows will not improve from a cpu with more cores/threads
Last edited by _I_; 23 Sep @ 1:15am
Originally posted by _I_:
Originally posted by wing0zero:
I always have the rule if you need to ask if you need it then you don't, you know if you need a 16 core CPU if you need one, this is a guy who is a bit paranoid with purchase regrets, you can see it in his other posts.
check task manager and see how many processes windows is currently using
and then tell me that windows will not improve from a cpu with more cores/threads
For general Windows use, checking email, browsing the web and mundane Windows tasks you will see little difference between a modern 4 core and a 8 core, you will see or feel no difference going to 16 cores, I know you know this though and this seems a weird take from you.

Maybe I should have gone with Threadripper for watching YouTube and checking email.
Last edited by wing0zero; 23 Sep @ 1:35am
_I_ 23 Sep @ 2:00am 
tr has lower core performance, but would be fine for yt and browser and office tasks
but its not great for games, thats been proven over and over again

just sayin it really depends on what you are doing on the pc and what windows is deciding to do at the same time that depends on overall cpu usage

games by themselves do not need many cores

windows doing all of its background tasks and whatever you are using can max out cpus with as many threads are available

the x3d cpus have higher core performance and more cache which helps games

the 9950x3d is as good for games, but games do not need many more cores
but for heavy multitasking and render/video encoding/transcoding jobs the 9950x3d will outperform the 9800x3d
Yeah sure but all irrelevant info, he says for general Windows use to which the answer is no he won't need more cores, I'm responding to what was asked because I read what he asking.
And a 9700X would be a fine pair up to save money and only pushing for high FPS in esport titles might benefit the X3D chip, some RT might benefit too as the the bigger cache could help with BVH structure I guess but not sure how much, game dependent probably and how much RT is used.
Go 32 GB ram instead of 64 GB and use that money towards the 9950x3d? I'm big on cores, but even I maxed out at 12/24 with my 7900 non-x. I think more than that is overkill unless you really know you need it just like the amount of memory you plan on getting right now.
Monk 23 Sep @ 5:49am 
9950x3d won't be faster in games abd unless you are playing e ports on a 500Hz monitor, you likely won't even see an impact of a 9800x3d over a 9700x, you could taket extra money abd get a 5070ti if you tend to play AAA games or stick with the 9070xt if you tend to play e sport stuff, or throw a but if extra cash at it and push to a 5080.

You don't need 64GB of ram for what you described, go wuth 2x16 or 2x24 of lower CL instead, 6000 cl28 is about the sweet spot for price / performance on ryzen
Zef 23 Sep @ 6:16am 
Originally posted by Bryan999:
will be gaming at 1440p.

That's complete overkill for 2K gaming, more like 4K gaming with those specs.

But hey if you have the money do what you want.

Also don't cheap out completely on the motherboard. You don't need an X870E but i would at least go for an X670E.

Just for the fact so you have more capability to add stuff later down the line (be it USB, SSD, PCIE slot(s))
Guydodge 23 Sep @ 6:28am 
replace the 9070xt or at the very least look up its lousy fps drops/lagging and support of older and some newer games.see if you can live with its limited support as you will limit your ability to run a portion of your steam library.also good job on not cheaping out on the M.B.its the backbone of the system and yes it does matter.
Last edited by Guydodge; 23 Sep @ 6:34am
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