Ryzen 1700, gtx 1070 or laptop 4050 rtx?
Is there any benefit in using the old desktop vs the laptop with a rtx 4050

Totally obsolete?
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https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4050-mobile.c3953

Honestly i'd use the desktop, the laptop 4050 is on par with a desktop 1070 but has 2gb less vram at only 6gb. What CPU is in the laptop?

also the desktop is more upgradeable (am4 has some monster cpus it can use still) and isn't constrained to a lower power limit or heat nearly as much as a laptop.
Originally posted by HypersleepyNaputunia:
Is there any benefit in using the old desktop vs the laptop with a rtx 4050

Totally obsolete?

If anything, for home use only, the desktop is superior. Obviously if your travelling lots, the laptop is the only viable choice, but at home the desktop is easily the better pick.

As Bing said above, the desktop can be upgraded, and AM4 isn't a dead socket. You can get some decent CPU's for that, and the 1070 has more VRAM and as such, will run games with higher textures, higher res and/or for longer, depending on what game it might be.
Games like Transport Fever 2 for instance, would be able to use more mods on the extra VRAM of the 1070.

If you can upgrade the desktop, say, put a better CPU in, swap out the GPU for a newer one, it would be miles better than that laptop will ever be.
Last edited by Liquid Inc; 17 Sep @ 4:43am
Laptops get outdated fast and lack proper power performance so you spend more money for relatively a short time, my estimates are about 3-5 years for a laptop and 7-10 years for a desktop to reach its EoL and desktops if you do it properly, can be upgraded to even go towards 7-15 years of top tier (near close to top tier) gaming.

In short, desktops are more bang for your buck.

What I dislike though, is that Nvidia GTX 1070. The R7 1700 is not my cup of tea either but would suffice. I would rather build a PC, this one here would have cost $3,500 new (prebuilt), but I personally installed the hardware for $1,200 so watch out for tech shops/PC repair shops and the like because they are ripping people off and do not properly ship GPU's (they have the GPU already attached which could destroy the hardware component).

If you can turn a screwdriver and follow directions, you can assemble a PC (we don't really build PC's, we assemble the pieces).

It sucks because exactly one year ago, you could have gotten the RTX 4070Ti for $600 which is about 100% of the performance power of the infamous GTX 1080Ti at the same exact price some GTX 1080Ti's were costing back in 2017.

I believe it was MSI who were spiking the prices nearing $1,200+ for the GTX 1080Ti, one reason I dislike MSI. There is no GPU on the market today or in the past that is worth over $1,500 and a custom-built desktop should not be exceeding $3,500 (tops).

If it costs only $500 to manufacture a GPU, why are they sale scumming consumers, basically ripping them off because of consumer naivety. All Nvidia chips are the same, the only thing that separates a GPU from one another is the cooling solution.

Nvidia has not released a proper Titan since the GTX 1080Ti.
Last edited by Alice Liddell; 17 Sep @ 6:06am
get the desktop and upgrade to rtx 3060 12gb which is way better than 4050 which should be avoided like a plague
x 17 Sep @ 6:42am 
Sell both and getting something better?
Even if you don't know how to build a PC, there are many stores that sell you the parts and assemble it for you. Some even at no extra cost (choose wisely). I upgraded my computer recently and bought and assembled everything. But the original rig (it was a very basic system) I just checked the website of my local store, picked a pre-build and asked to change some parts around (mostly changed some "brands" for higher quality) and they only charged me for the difference in the price. Smaller stores will treat you nice sometimes. And that is why I now went back to buy a new CPU, GPU and SSD, even if I could have saved a few bucks getting it from the likes of amazon.
As for laptops, I would call them a last case scenario for gaming. Only if you really, really, really have a lot of free time on the go. If you need the laptop for work but game at home, maybe consider having a gaming desktop and get a used/refurbished Lenovo Thinkpad or something like that. I managed to pick up a Panasonic Thoughbook for about 120 euros on ebay (wasn't looking for a thoughbook, but hey...) and also picked up a Thinkpad for 115. Both from the same refurbished computer seller out of germany. Had to buy key stickers for 5 euros... They put the Z and the Y in the wrong place!
Which of the new gpus use a single 8 pin plug and would be fine with 650w evga superbova g2 psu

Basically design a cheap upgrade cpu gpu combo thar is semi power efficient because i use solar power, can run win 11 tpm, doesnt melt its sockets, total price for cpu and gpu lets say max $850. I also dont have nvme slots on my krait 370 motherboard so ill be using hdd
Last edited by HypersleepyNaputunia; 17 Sep @ 8:03am
on that same socket i'd go for a RX 9060XT and a 5800x3D as an upgrade

Originally posted by HypersleepyNaputunia:
Which of the new gpus use a single 8 pin plug and would be fine with 650w evga superbova g2 psu

Basically design a cheap upgrade cpu gpu combo thar is semi power efficient because i use solar power, can run win 11 tpm, doesnt melt its sockets, total price for cpu and gpu lets say max $850. I also dont have nvme slots on my krait 370 motherboard so ill be using hdd
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RwmR8Q
x 17 Sep @ 8:55am 
Originally posted by HypersleepyNaputunia:
Which of the new gpus use a single 8 pin plug and would be fine with 650w evga superbova g2 psu

Basically design a cheap upgrade cpu gpu combo thar is semi power efficient because i use solar power, can run win 11 tpm, doesnt melt its sockets, total price for cpu and gpu lets say max $850. I also dont have nvme slots on my krait 370 motherboard so ill be using hdd

You could have a look at installing an m.2 expansion card on the PCIe slot. I believe that board has 2 PCIe 16 slots. They aren't too expensive (but look at the compatibilities and also check for physical space on the board/case). Preferably get something with a decent heatsink, but depending on the design you can get a separate heatsink for the drive.
If budget allows, I strongly recommend the m.2. Mine was around 60/65 euros 1TB Kingston NV3. The speed difference is well worth it. The adaptor cards I don't think are very expensive, but I never did use one.

I recently upgraded from a Ryzen 5 3400G (with only iGPU) to a Ryzen 7 5700X and an MSI RTX 5060 8GB. Plus also got a 1TB m.2 drive. I'm super happy. It's enough for me, really.
Don't neglect cooling. I had to later get some more fans due to some heating (but it was also the peak of summer heat). Also bought a heatsink for the m.2, but it was only about 6euros (but I strongly suggest you get one... drive runs about 15ºc cooler with just the heatsink). I'm running on 500w PSU and I have more than 100W to spare (according to several "calculators" I used).
As an example, days gone (remaster) runs very smooth at 1080p with top graphics with screen set to 100Hz (never checked the game's FPS but it's smooth).
The MSI 5060 Ventus 2 (something, something) has a standard 8 pin connector and 145w. Actually, MSI have the connectors listed in their models if you want to check.

This is the m.2 heatsink I got.
thermalright.com/product/tr-m-2-2280-type-a-g/

Don't forget to get thermal paste and maybe a new CPU cooler if the current one isn't too great.
Last edited by x; 17 Sep @ 8:57am
Have noctua d15 or something i forget what i got but it was like dh 14 15 with 2 fans
Talby 17 Sep @ 10:49pm 
I picked up a 4050 laptop for $650 for when I travel, surprisingly handles all the games I currently play quite well once I dial in the game settings and looks good @1080/144. The only thing I got was a 2Tb external sata ssd, the 500gb nvme it came with was a bit tight.

Although I do admit, prefer my desktop 3070ti @1440/144.
im using 4050 laptop too it is quite good for me, i think im just putting the desktop in a closet till gpus become cheap again
Talby 18 Sep @ 10:08am 
I do have to say, it is far and beyond the i5 4c/8t - 16g ram - 1050ti laptop it replaced - that was just pain and misery and some games were a slideshow even at the lowest settings...
Last edited by Talby; 18 Sep @ 10:08am
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