Windows 11(Inplace Upgrade) The FPS mutilator. Ninja edit.

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Narcess 27 Oct @ 9:55am

Ok so I was maybe a little drunk and let Windows update to 11. HUGE MISTAKE! DO NOT DO IT!
Lemme give you my specs.
MB:X579 Aorus Elite WIFI
CPU: Ryzen 9 5900x 12 Core, 3701Mhz
GPU: Radeon RX 6900XT
RAM: 4* GSkill Trident Z 16 Gb Sticks (64Gb Total)
Network: Frontier Fiber 5GB
NIC: ASUS XG-C 100 C 10G PCI-E (Down ave: 4265 Mbps Up Ave:3120Mbps)
All drivers, BIOS, Firmware, everything is up to date.
Storage: C (OS layer) 1TB Samsung SSD 980 Pro NVME
D (Storage Hybrid) WD Purz 6TB SATA
E (SSD) Seagate 2TB Sata
F (Slow Storage) WD EFRX 6TB Sata
G (Fast Storage/Gaming) WD Black 4TB NVME
All drivers, BIOS, Firmware, everything is up to date.

So after the upgrade and being pissed off I could not move the task bar to the top of the screen I fired up Steam for some gaming. I was doing my completion list of games to get them out of my “damn I need to play that queue”. Working thorough Nioh2 and after about 1:30~2 Minutes FPS drops to 22 ~10 . WTH man? Ok do some digging and find out Win11 has a Gaming DVR so I kill it… still no dice. Then I go down the rabbit hole of every optimization video and all settings at BIOS, AMD Adrenaline, Win 11 debloat. Still after a min or 2 FPS craters. Seriously frustrated! Uninstall AMD and reinstall, uninstall Steam and re install. Fire up Doom Eternal same $h!t.. dig through all my setting make sure there is no heat, HAGS or anything that could be killing my FPS. Tried every single YT video to bring FPS back around still screwed. In the end rolled back upgrade to Windows 10… HOLY CRAP IT WORKS AGAIN!!! Windows 11 is utter and complete trash. Find a Linux Distro and move to that because if MS is going to shove gamers to a craptastic OS they can kiss my fat hard drive. If you have any ideas I may not have tried please let me know but at this point I am running a separate box with Proxmox on it testing different distros for functionality. Stay safe out there gang and drop me a line if I missed anything.
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Last edited by Narcess; 27 Oct @ 10:57am

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smallcat 27 Oct @ 10:04am

Windows often does some maintenance tasks in the background especially after update

Narcess 27 Oct @ 10:08am

I wish that was the case but I gave it a few days of shake down to finish up all its "funky-ness" and it still jacked up my FPS...

Monk 27 Oct @ 10:09am

That's a local issue, most of steam is on windows 11 without issues.

Got to love when an individual's system has issues and they equate it to the software MILLIONS are using without a problem, I mean, it cannot be your system, no, it's the software that has a problem, makes total sense.

How do people like this manage to jump to such conclusions?

wing0zero 27 Oct @ 10:25am

Upgrades can bork the drivers, often installing them again can fix issues, but anyone who knows anything about Windows after the upgrade has a USB pen ready with the latest build to do a fresh install after the upgrade.

emoticorpse 27 Oct @ 10:30am

I agree with Monk, but ultimately if it helps op to sleep at night believing it's that simple that'll work. I'm glad he found his solution either way.

I would kind of expect this kind of story from anybody who chooses to do an in place upgrade for Windows. Just a bad way to get started. First thing I'd wonder is what the free space available to the OS drive was between 10 and 11 after the 11 upgrade if it kept the 10 files and then that space was again freed up and given back to 10 after the upgrade making all the difference.

Narcess 27 Oct @ 10:31am

@Monk: Ok then can you tell me why the moment I rolled back to Win 10 its fine. I am not saying I am perfect but there are tons and tons of folks out their struggling with Windows 11 killing them. Obviously since you are so high,mighty, and knowledge able maybe you can pass down some of your supreme knowledge instead of just posting a condescending snark fest.

How do people like this have no compassion or anything positive to contribute?

Beardface31 27 Oct @ 10:33am

Your Windows 11 installation must not have been configured correctly.. I upgraded to Win11 recently and it has been fine.

malaria 27 Oct @ 10:35am

I'd never trust the Windows upgrade knowing how ♥♥♥♥ it was back with Vista and 7 or 8 to 10, its pretty much always a clean install for me if im going to make the jump to the new OS and only after some years have passed so that they have ironed it out or the worst bits of it removed like when MS finally gave up on pushing Cortana so hard

wing0zero 27 Oct @ 10:38am

Originally posted by malaria:
I'd never trust the Windows upgrade knowing how ♥♥♥♥ it was back with Vista and 7 or 8 to 10

Yep still not great/perfect.

Narcess 27 Oct @ 10:39am

Originally posted by wing0zero:
Upgrades can bork the drivers, often installing them again can fix issues, but anyone who knows anything about Windows after the upgrade has a USB pen ready with the latest build to do a fresh install after the upgrade.

I did uninstall and reinstall all drivers, it was my first thought. I admit I probably should have done the full rip and replace of the OS layer but meh I was being lazy and as I said was a bit drunk. Anywho as I said I am running a fresh install of Win 11 in a virt to see WTF is going on.

@Emoticorpse: Appreciate the non condescension. I did look at my 1TB so drive for any size issues and found nothing. And I agree a fresh and clean install may be the answer. But the in place upgrade just aint flying for me.

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Monk 27 Oct @ 10:40am

Originally posted by Narcess:
@Monk: Ok then can you tell me why the moment I rolled back to Win 10 its fine. I am not saying I am perfect but there are tons and tons of folks out their struggling with Windows 11 killing them. Obviously since you are so high,mighty, and knowledge able maybe you can pass down some of your supreme knowledge instead of just posting a condescending snark fest.

How do people like this have no compassion or anything positive to contribute?

Because I was the only one being snarky lol.

It works fine for the overwhelming majority, id guess something went wrong with an in-place upgrade vs doing a fresh install, which is always best and doesn't take more than about 20 minutes.

But no, it's clearly windows 11 bricking everything not your unstable system and upgrade carrying over who knows what issues.

But hey, if sticking with an out dated OS makes you happy, it has no impact on me, but you coming here making a giant post making statements like they are facts and the norm is laughable, so I replied in kind.

In short, I am bored of being polite, so, I'm calling out rubbish when I see it these days.

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Narcess 27 Oct @ 10:47am

@Monk: Fair, very fair. I do think the inplace upgrade is the issue. Only gaming was hindered on my PC everything else worked perfectly. I could do multiple VM sessions, run Python testing and everything else. Maybe the interaction between AMD and inplace win 11 causes massive isses but I fully uninstalled all AMD drivers and reinstalled. Used Revo to strip out any excess file structures left just in case. Still no dice. Again not a fan of Windows 11 and will be moving all things to a Linux flavor to get off it though. I agree common sense is so rare its a damn super power but maybe try being a bit more constructive and less poopie diaper...

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