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PCPartPicker Part List: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/HVgVxg
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7500F 3.7 GHz 6-Core OEM/Tray Processor (€130.30 @ Proshop)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Burst Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (€21.59 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650M S2H Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard (€88.03 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Crucial Pro Overclocking 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory (€97.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Crucial T500 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€146.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Asus DUAL OC GeForce RTX 5060 Ti 16 GB Video Card (€428.90 @ Alza)
Case: Montech AIR 100 ARGB MicroATX Mid Tower Case (€58.90 @ Alza)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€54.72 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1027.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-10-22 15:18 CEST+0200
you may want to google some reviews on the current generation of GPUs and CPUs.
but you may want to get a gpu that has at least 12GB VRAM and a cpu with at least 6 cores 12 threads but i suggest that you get the Ryzen 7 7700 which is only around €/$40 more
if you want a complete build.. so including monitor and keyboard and such.. I'd say 1200 euro is a good minim.. if you need only the case.. 900 likely will do.
if you want more bang for buck aka a midend system.. you are wanting to have a budget of 2400 to 3000 euro with perifials.. and 1800 to 2250 without..
however given what you got.. just buying a 300-500 euro secondhand pc would already be a massive upgrade for you..
there are nice second had pc's for sale with like a 3070 or 2080ti at that pricepoint.
that would already be a nice step up for you..
but most importantly calculate the price per month
**calculate how often do you want to replace your pc..
**how much are you willing to spend per month on hardware
**that basicly gives you your budget.. it's not what you have in savings now.. but if you can maintain that level of gaming..
if you buy a 4k pc now but can only afford 30 euro a month.. than you'd be better off being something less powerfull and cheaper.. like it is better to buy every 4 year a 1200 euro pc. than once every 12 year a 4000 euro one.. or better every 4 year a 1200 euro one..
the right time to start saving for your next pc is when you just bought your current one..
country/location and currency?
main uses?
ignore the first guy, he pick s a junk board, and just stop from there
any tower cooler on a board without vrm heatsinks is pointless, as it will not get hot enough to need the tower cooler
you could reuse the psu and case,
but if looking at an entire new build, might as well keep those to keep the old build running as is
I'd suggest you first start with figuring out what you are comfortable with in regards to budget; (vs the other way around asking how much you'd expect to spend for an unknown hardware level/spec).
Bare minimum things to consider would be to look at the minimum system requirements for all of the software you definitely know you will be running. For example, you'll likely be looking at upgrading to Windows 11 and so you'd want to make sure you are looking at an 8th gen Intel Core series or equivalent AMD Ryzen CPU or newer; with either a TPM2.0 module or fTPM (firmware TPM built into the CPU). You should be fine if you are buying new parts as they should all be within the last few generations.
Most of your rig wouldn't be worth moving over to a new build; other than your PSU and disks would likely be sufficient, Your case would probably also be fine (hard to know without the actual model if it'd fit whatever parts so either provide the model or make sure you are verifying sizes / support for things like your GPU size & CPU cooler sizes, etc. Your audio interface would also work fine on a new system.
I would however suggest it might be worth considering backing up your data, wiping the current system and installing something like Bazzite on it to use as a "legacy" gaming system, and then selling it as-is (or donate it) and using that money to help offset a completely new build. You'll get next to nothing trying to part that system out as individual parts but you could probably get a couple hundred dollars for it as a complete system for retro gaming.
So in summary to start with:
- Figure out at least a target range for a budget (also include the general region your in (such as country, don't need to be super specific) so people know what currency and market to look in for parts. Assuming somewhere in Europe considering the euro symbol in your OP.
- Describe your use case as best as possible; e.g. primarily just for gaming, wanting to do some live streaming, primarily for X type of work with some gaming, etc. Listing the types of, or specific examples of, software and/or games you know you will want to use (like your BF6, tarkov, etc.) is also helpful to understand your usecase.
I'm not exactly sure but he might be saying that _I_ was knocking air coolers if he meant them when he said "tower cooler". If that was the case then I guess he would be implying that a liquid/aio cooler should be considered?.
That's if he meant air cooler when he said tower cooler. I don't know, I'm just guessing here.
I am right now putting together a ryzen 5 5500, 16gb, 1TB m.2 and (maybe, not yet settled) and Intel Arc A750. Will be about 400/450 euros. Overall it's a bit less because I'm using the 32GB I am buying on my current pc and moving the old RAM to the new build. I could have gotten it cheaper, but I'm getting a decent Asus Prime B450, 3200MHz RAM, fast m.2, 80+ PSU. This should play quite a lot of games at decent spec. However, I currently have a better PC, so this will be the kid's computer. MB, RAM, CPU and GPU are used. But I could have gone for a cheaper MB, slower RAM, smaller or slower (or less reliable) m.2 and get cheaper. But overall I prefer to get more reliable gear as opposed to more better performance from meehh brands.
Depending where you live, 500-800 euros can get you a pretty decent used PC for the next few years or around 1000 to 1200 for a new one. Might not be able to play all games at top graphs, but you would need some 3 or 4k for that... that mostly is up to you. I managed to play Cyberpunk on a Ryzen 3400G with no dedicated GPU. It ran... lol
I mostly agree with the choices of smallcat up there. I might chose differently, but then again everyone will have different ideas. Just don't get the cheapest of everything. Get a decent PSU and motherboard too, most people cheap on those and they are the heart and engine of the build.
Also, there might be some decent online retailers of used gaming PCs where you live. If you are in the EU (you mentioned €), the warranty for used gear (if not private deals) is actually pretty decent. Just chose a good used parts retailer. But still, look up prices for new stuff. Some places sell used components and PCs at higher price than the new stuff.
You are just posting random nonsensical drivel and derailing the OP's thread.
would be an radeon 9070xt.. paired with an 7800x3d
-> currently the 7800x3d (last gens best gaming cpu) is just 320 euro.. way cheaper than the 450 eurp an 9800x3d cost (this gen best gaming cpu)
so I say the bang for buck sensible option is a 9070xt paired with an 7800x3d.. you likely want to also add a 4tb gen 4 m.2 (230 euro)... and a kit of 64gb ddr5 6000mhz latency 10.. (240 euro)
a good motherboard costs 300 euro.. I would say
Gigabyte X870E AORUS ELITE WIFI7 is a solid pick
but if you want to save some money...
ASRock X870 PRO RS WiFi can be had for 210 euro.. and is fine too (it lacks a few options due having the cheaper chipset.. but it still has all the essentials
than a psu, you will want to make sure it has TWO 6+2 connectors, is atx 3.1, and has gold, platinum or titanium rating.. and finally that it is fully modulair.. and given the other parts 750W or higher..
-> these start at 80 euro.. but to have a bit chooise between models (which mostly will be about which is more silent/durable/looks nicer) 100 euro for the psu is reasonable
just use a good aircooler for your cpu.. those can be had for 50 euro.
a cheap case with plenty airflow will cost around 60 euro.. including 3 casefans..
but given you have to look at it.. lets factor in a bit more 120 euro plus 30 euro for more/better casefans..
so
Gigabyte X870E AORUS ELITE WIFI7 : 300 euro
9070xt : 650 euro
7800x3d : 320 euro
4tb gen 4 m.2 : 230 euro
64gb 2x32gb ddr5 6000mhz true latency 10ms : 240 euro
psu : 100 euro
pc case & casefans : 150 euro
cpu cooler : 50 euro
= 2040 euro..
which nicely sits in the middle of the 1800-2250 for a midend build.
**if you want to shave something off.. without sacrifice too much
**you could pick an 5070 instead (that has less vram and will thus sooner be outdated but performs the same.. go for 32 or 48gb ram.. pick the 90 euro cheaper motherboard, go for a 2tb m.2 or go for a cheaper case..
while if you want to spend a bit more going for a gen 5 m.2, or an 9800x3d are still sensible upgrades.. (and ofcourse picking an AIO for your cpu would also add cost.. but that adds no function.. just looks.. but well if you like that look it can't hurt to spend an extra 50 on that..
for monitor.. I would just buy an 1440p 27 or 32 inch ips with <1ms responcetime, and freesync.. those cost 150-200 euro now.. and is likely leagues above what you have now.
and a basic mechanical keyboard + mouse kit.. can be had for 50 euro... sure you can go expensive here but just buying a smart pick thats just a bit better than the default trash already gives a lot of gain..
speakers.. a good 2+1 set costs around 60 euro.. and if you need a headphone about the same..
so with perifials.. that brings you too about 2300 euro..
and should last you many many years of fun.