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Zombi 15 Oct @ 10:31am
Now what?
After Windows 10 being 10 years on the market, are we now forced to use Windows 11 till LTS is deprecated? I am not moving to that bloated, spyware mess. I am not going to be forced to use a Microsoft Account. I am sorry, but this isn't like moving from 7. This is literally removal of what I paid for. "Oh you still get to use 10 for 5 years" No, I won't. I will be forced to move for my own computers security. Or forced to move to Linux which as abysmal gaming and creative software compatibility.

I'd have to practically give up my whole software suite if i were to move to Linux. Or, fanagle the ones that do have Native Linux Ports to what I need. Same thing with Video Games I play.
The simple fact is: Linux doesn't have Direct X. Windows has the monopoly on Direct X. The most popular, and well supported (by GPU's) graphics driver to exist today.
Compared to Vulkan, to OpenGL. DirectX is the leader. Despite being owned by Microsoft. And people saying "Oh you can just use Proton, Wine". Yes, you can. But you aren't USING DirectX (In a technical sense you are, emulating it) but there is always a loss of optimization when you are running it off emulation.

I get it, Proton is great now with the backing of Steam and the Steam Deck. That's nice, especially since I don't really play the newest games either, but I know plenty of people also do.

And there is the angle of tech illiteracy: Not really illiteracy to say but the sense. People do not want to learn how to use a command line, how to use an entire new operating system when their old one worked just Fine. Though this is literally the best time in the world to learn how to use Linux and it's not really THAT hard to use despite my whining. If I can run a game natively, I rather would.

99.9% of games on Steam are Windows only.

That is a problem proton cannot solve.

I do not want to give up on either, Windows or Linux. Linux is great and I miss using it, I would much rather deal with the growing pains of Linux than be forced in a corporate walled garden that is Windows 11. You can't even make a local account anymore. You are still forced to have Edge to be installed on your PC. You still get bing results in the search bar. You get more bloatware, for worse optimization. Microsoft just wants not your money, but YOU, YOUR DATA, YOUR ADVERTISING DATA. YOU ARE THE PRODUCT; When YOU use a Microsoft Product. You shouldn't have to worry about privacy on your computer, that you own, in your own home.

Linux is your operating system, you install it, you own it, you are free to even uninstall the fricking BOOTLOADER (I wouldn't advise that) if you want to. And despite what I said. IT'S SO EASY TO LEARN.

More over, don't just move your game library. Move your life to Linux. It's free, as in freedom. :steamhappy:
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matt 15 Oct @ 11:00am 
Windows 11 is basically just a re-release of Windows 10 with some tweaks and tightened security. I don't see the point in losing your head over it.

I was playing DOS and Windows games on Linux in the 1990s. This was back in the dark ages, so it took some configuring, but it still wasn't very difficult, and most games ran without any major problems. By now, it's basically a solved problem. Many indie games have a native Linux version. Some games even run faster under emulation than they do on Windows.

If you're a technophobe, I guess you'll have problems, but technophobes have problems with Windows, too.
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wing0zero 15 Oct @ 11:15am 
Originally posted by jaid.exe:
After Windows 10 being 10 years on the market, are we now forced to use Windows 11 till LTS is deprecated? I am not moving to that bloated, spyware mess. I am not going to be forced to use a Microsoft Account.
I only read this far, ok well don't then.
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Electric Cupcake 15 Oct @ 11:16am 
I'm sticking with 10 for a while longer, but I've got https://gizmodo.com/download/tiny11 and https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat bookmarked.

Windows 11 is an abomination, but as with 10, there's plenty of workarounds.

You definitely want a Pro edition key, since virtualization and gpedit are mandatory, and it's easy to bypass the account BS by joining a domain.
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wing0zero 15 Oct @ 11:21am 
Originally posted by Electric Cupcake:
Windows 11 is an abomination, but as with 10, there's plenty of workarounds.
Rubbish it's fine, used it since launch, I'm still alive!
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Electric Cupcake 15 Oct @ 11:24am 
Originally posted by wing0zero:
Originally posted by Electric Cupcake:
Windows 11 is an abomination, but as with 10, there's plenty of workarounds.
Rubbish it's fine, used it since launch, I'm still alive!

And it's because of apathetic quislings like you that they think they can get away with so much.
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Chaosolous 15 Oct @ 11:27am 
Linux is fine. It’s come a long, long way in the last several years.

Virtually all programs can work on it. The user might need to do an extra step but unless someone is an idiot, it’s not that difficult. There’s lots of guides.

I game on Linux without any issues.

Otherwise, buy a Mac or use the spyware known as Windows 11.
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wing0zero 15 Oct @ 11:40am 
Originally posted by Electric Cupcake:
Originally posted by wing0zero:
Rubbish it's fine, used it since launch, I'm still alive!

And it's because of apathetic quislings like you that they think they can get away with so much.
And just what have they got away with? Steam installed fine and the games launch, good enough for me.
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Illusion of Progress 15 Oct @ 11:45am 
Windows 11 may as well be a Windows 10 content update with a TPM 2.0 requirement and a different look (one marginally better than that boring, sterile, flat, minimalist look of Windows 8/10).

If anyone doesn't like things that current day Windows is, that's fine. Watching people complain about things like telemetry, spyware, ads, forced Microsoft accounts, loss of control of your PC, forced and broken updates... all while digging in with Windows 10 is pretty inconsistent. Those were all things that were largely brought to us with Windows 10 (or in some cases, like the "walled garden" Microsoft store, Windows 8), and they are all things Windows 10 would have continued to do had Windows 11 never existed.

"Just because a thing isn't new doesn't mean it's not bad."

Sure, and I agree. But avoiding one thing that does those things and defending the other that does those things still doesn't make sense. In this case, make your arguments about those THINGS and not exclusively against Windows 11 while defending Windows 10.
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