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Tommy Bee 16 Oct @ 10:52pm

Achievements & 100%/Blue Ribbon

Hello fellow completionists!

I've come here to suggest some improvements that could be done to game achievements. I love achievement hunting, so to get to the point I want an update that separates the base game achievements from DLC achievements. This is because I've already had two instances where I've blue ribboned a game, but the DLC achievements take away my blue ribbon after releasing. This is a simple quality of life update, and I think it would benefit all players. Especially completionists which you would only have to worry about base game achievements to get a blue ribbon.

That is all Thank You,

Tommy Bee

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Makam 17 Oct @ 2:59am

Hikari Light 17 Oct @ 3:54am

DLC are still part of the whole game.
If you haven't gotten the DLC achievements, then you haven't 100% the game.

Also achievements are a very low priority for Valve due to those caring about achievements a very small minority of users.

Supafly 17 Oct @ 4:57am

Originally posted by Hikari Light:
Also achievements are a very low priority for Valve due to those caring about achievements a very small minority of users.

This and then Achievements are easy to cheat with SAM and other methods

blunus 17 Oct @ 5:03am

Originally posted by Tommy Bee:
Hello fellow completionists!

I've come here to suggest some improvements that could be done to game achievements. I love achievement hunting, so to get to the point I want an update that separates the base game achievements from DLC achievements. This is because I've already had two instances where I've blue ribboned a game, but the DLC achievements take away my blue ribbon after releasing. This is a simple quality of life update, and I think it would benefit all players. Especially completionists which you would only have to worry about base game achievements to get a blue ribbon.

That is all Thank You,

Tommy Bee

Already possible. Separate appid for the DLC and then add achievements in it. Most devs don't bother implemented that, probably because they want money.

Ben Lubar 17 Oct @ 7:16am

Originally posted by blunus:
Already possible. Separate appid for the DLC and then add achievements in it. Most devs don't bother implemented that, probably because they want money.

No, it is not possible to add stats or achievements to a DLC app. Stop repeating this lie.

Tommy Bee 17 Oct @ 10:09am

Originally posted by Hikari Light:
DLC are still part of the whole game.
If you haven't gotten the DLC achievements, then you haven't 100% the game.

Also achievements are a very low priority for Valve due to those caring about achievements a very small minority of users.

I understand what you mean, but some people might not be able to purchase the DLC or they just don't want the DLC. Like for me, I already completed Cyberpunk 2077 but when my blue ribbon was taken away I wasn't able to get the Phantom Liberty DLC until almost half a year after it released.

As for the "small minority" I think that adding this achievement separation update might encourage more people to fully complete a game.

Tommy Bee 17 Oct @ 10:11am

Originally posted by Supafly:
Originally posted by Hikari Light:
Also achievements are a very low priority for Valve due to those caring about achievements a very small minority of users.

This and then Achievements are easy to cheat with SAM and other methods

I heard about the SAM method before, so I guess they could just provide a patch with the update to restrict SAM and the other methods of cheating for achievements.

Ben Lubar 17 Oct @ 10:12am

Originally posted by Tommy Bee:
Originally posted by Supafly:

This and then Achievements are easy to cheat with SAM and other methods

I heard about the SAM method before, so I guess they could just provide a patch with the update to restrict SAM and the other methods of cheating for achievements.

Not without breaking achievements in every game that's on Steam and requiring them all to manually be fixed by their developers.

Tommy Bee 17 Oct @ 10:15am

Originally posted by Ben Lubar:
Originally posted by Tommy Bee:

I heard about the SAM method before, so I guess they could just provide a patch with the update to restrict SAM and the other methods of cheating for achievements.

Not without breaking achievements in every game that's on Steam and requiring them all to manually be fixed by their developers.

Yeah I guess that's true, but I still believe. I NEED this update to happen, idc how long it takes. It would boost individual game retention.

Supafly 17 Oct @ 10:16am

Originally posted by Tommy Bee:
Originally posted by Supafly:

This and then Achievements are easy to cheat with SAM and other methods

I heard about the SAM method before, so I guess they could just provide a patch with the update to restrict SAM and the other methods of cheating for achievements.

Would follow normal Cheat pattern

1. Cheaters cheat
2. Company patches it
3. Cheaters find another work around
4. Repeat steps 1-3 for eternity

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Tommy Bee 17 Oct @ 10:24am

Originally posted by Supafly:
Originally posted by Tommy Bee:

I heard about the SAM method before, so I guess they could just provide a patch with the update to restrict SAM and the other methods of cheating for achievements.

Would follow normal Cheat pattern

1. Cheaters cheat
2. Company patches it
3. Cheaters find another work around
4. Repeat steps 1-3 for eternity

But let's be honest, you could say the same loop for about almost anything that's online these days. Cheaters are just addicted to taking shortcuts, there is almost a sort of honor system when playing games now.

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William Shakesman 17 Oct @ 10:34am

Originally posted by blunus:
Originally posted by Tommy Bee:
Hello fellow completionists!

I've come here to suggest some improvements that could be done to game achievements. I love achievement hunting, so to get to the point I want an update that separates the base game achievements from DLC achievements. This is because I've already had two instances where I've blue ribboned a game, but the DLC achievements take away my blue ribbon after releasing. This is a simple quality of life update, and I think it would benefit all players. Especially completionists which you would only have to worry about base game achievements to get a blue ribbon.

That is all Thank You,

Tommy Bee
Already possible. Separate appid for the DLC and then add achievements in it. Most devs don't bother implemented that, probably because they want money.

False. Valve does not offer this as an option to developers despite developers asking it.

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Nx Machina 17 Oct @ 12:26pm

Seperate base game, dlc: Possible with seperate app id's but only if Valve extends it to other games. Currently only TF2 has it.

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Tommy Bee 17 Oct @ 1:07pm

Originally posted by Nx Machina:
Seperate base game, dlc: Possible with seperate app id's but only if Valve extends it to other games. Currently only TF2 has it.

Oh woah I didn't know TF2 had it. So this is proof that it is possible. I know it will probably take really long to implement it to every game because all the game devs and what not would probably have to participate in changing how the achievements work. That's cool though, proof that it could work.

Last edited by Tommy Bee; 17 Oct @ 4:14pm

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Ben Lubar 17 Oct @ 2:01pm

Originally posted by Tommy Bee:
Originally posted by Nx Machina:
Seperate base game, dlc: Possible with seperate app id's but only if Valve extends it to other games. Currently only TF2 has it.

Oh woah I didn't know TF2 had it. So this is proof that it is possible. I know it will probably take really long to implement it to every game because all the game devs and what not would probably have to participate in changing how to achievements work. That's cool though, proof that it could work.

TF2 has achievement groups. That has nothing to do with DLCs (which makes sense because TF2 doesn't sell DLCs).

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