Originally posted by Dast Dickerdly:

So, I was recently scammed (Not by a scambot, but I still hate how I fell for it) but I did think of a feature that would potentially help lower the amount of damage these scambots could do.

How does the system know it is a scammer? It doesn't as the account is seen as a legitimate account until reported and locked. Accounts used to scam are already compromised accounts which the account creator either did not recover or are not aware it is compromised.

How does the system prevent you from being scammed when you fell for the scam? It cannot as you did the actions allowing it to be compromised.

Originally posted by Nx Machina:

Originally posted by Dast Dickerdly:

So, I was recently scammed (Not by a scambot, but I still hate how I fell for it) but I did think of a feature that would potentially help lower the amount of damage these scambots could do.

How does the system know it is a scammer? It doesn't as the account is seen as a legitimate account until reported and locked. Accounts used to scam are already compromised accounts which the account creator either did not recover or are not aware it is compromised.

How does the system prevent you from being scammed when you fell for the scam? It cannot as you did the actions allowing it to be compromised.

The system wouldn't mark a profile as being a scammers profile right away, rather it would primarily stop "Friend requests" coming from people who wouldn't have been in a position to realistically send one. I receive "Friend" requests all the time from accounts that only have F2P games, of which I have played none in recent time. I just think it would be a good filter to have your steam account block these requests automatically (if you have the option checked). The "Reporting profile" part would just come into play if the account sending the "Friend" requests has done so on multiple occasions to people with this setting on, and to those who have not engaged in the same games.

The vast majority of these accounts are hijacked themselves. Marking them as scammers is not helpful to anyone.

And there is an invite limit as well that can last up to 30 days.

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

The vast majority of these accounts are hijacked themselves. Marking them as scammers is not helpful to anyone.

And there is an invite limit as well that can last up to 30 days.

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Personally, I highly doubt the majority of the "Steam lvl 10, nothing but F2P games, badges for games that aren't in the user's inventory" that continually try and push "Friend" requests towards me are legitimate.

But if you insist, then fine, drop the auto report after multiple blocked requests. Even so, an option to auto block requests from profiles you haven't played any recent games with would still be a very nice QOL and security addition.

Originally posted by Dast Dickerdly:

The system wouldn't mark a profile as being a scammers profile right away, rather it would primarily stop "Friend requests" coming from people who wouldn't have been in a position to realistically send one. I receive "Friend" requests all the time from accounts that only have F2P games, of which I have played none in recent time. I just think it would be a good filter to have your steam account block these requests automatically (if you have the option checked). The "Reporting profile" part would just come into play if the account sending the "Friend" requests has done so on multiple occasions to people with this setting on, and to those who have not engaged in the same games.

An account cannot be marked as being compromised by a scammer unless reported as being used to scam. Upon investigation Steam Support with proof of it being used to scam locks the account as the account creator is not the scammer, therefore they do not mark the account as being a scammer.

What you want to do is mark an account as being a scammer based on you getting friend requests which can falsely accuse the account creator of being a scammer by marking their profile.

You need to look at which groups you belong to as that is probably the source for these friend requests.

Originally posted by Nx Machina:

Originally posted by Dast Dickerdly:

The system wouldn't mark a profile as being a scammers profile right away, rather it would primarily stop "Friend requests" coming from people who wouldn't have been in a position to realistically send one. I receive "Friend" requests all the time from accounts that only have F2P games, of which I have played none in recent time. I just think it would be a good filter to have your steam account block these requests automatically (if you have the option checked). The "Reporting profile" part would just come into play if the account sending the "Friend" requests has done so on multiple occasions to people with this setting on, and to those who have not engaged in the same games.

An account cannot be marked as being compromised by a scammer unless reported as being used to scam. Upon investigation Steam Support with proof of it being used to scam locks the account as the account creator is not the scammer, therefore they do not mark the account as being a scammer.

What you want to do is mark an account as being a scammer based on you getting friend requests which can falsely accuse the account creator of being a scammer by marking their profile.

You need to look at which groups you belong to as that is probably the source for these friend requests.

Ok then, let's remove the auto report feature from the suggestion. I still think having a setting that automatically blocks incoming friend requests from accounts that haven't played the same games you have recently would still be a great addition. Have it on by default, but still optional.

Originally posted by Dast Dickerdly:

Ok then, let's remove the auto report feature from the suggestion. I still think having a setting that automatically blocks incoming friend requests from accounts that haven't played the same games you have recently would still be a great addition. Have it on by default, but still optional.

Have you checked the groups you are in because people getting random friend requests have being in giveaway groups for example.

I used to play F2P games on Steam, Path of Exile, The Secret World Legends to name two before switching to the external clients. Does that make me a scammer because i send you a friend request?

People do not just send requests based solely on games played. They may have seen a post or posts you have written and have similar viewpoints for example.

As for Steam level it has zero relevance. Why? Because both you and i show as level 0 therefore we are auto assigned the label of scammer and people often do that, while those with higher level public profiles are deemed trustworthy.

You created this thread with the premise of level 10, F2P games only, friend requests and deem anyone in those categories as scammers because you fell for a scam, yet higher level compromised accounts that were used to scam have other games not F2P.

How do i and others know? Because people posts the links to them after being scammed and want people to report the profile, which is naming and shaming the account creator who is not the scammer, as scammers use compromised accounts, not their own which can be traced.

Originally posted by Dast Dickerdly:

Personally, I highly doubt the majority of the "Steam lvl 10, nothing but F2P games, badges for games that aren't in the user's inventory" that continually try and push "Friend" requests towards me are legitimate.

And that's you. Consider the number of friends is a Steam stat. People love boosting their stats, and other people care too much about other people account stats. People have been spamming friend invites since the inception of Steam simply because it's cool to have lots of friends on your list.

And a lot of new people simply want to fill their empty friendlist fast, so anything goes.

And nowadays the largest volume of scams come from two sources:
-Hijacked accounts already in your friendlist
-Outside of Steam (Discord)

Originally posted by Dast Dickerdly:

Even so, an option to auto block requests from profiles you haven't played any recent games with would still be a very nice QOL

That's another subject. There's people here not looking after 'making friends' or who just mant their IRL friends in their list. A way to filter or block friend request would be welcome by some. But here we're clashing with Steam being not only a gaming social space but a game store and broadcasting what you're doing, playing and buying to as many people as possible is a marketing channel for the store.

Originally posted by Dast Dickerdly:

Even so, an option to auto block requests from profiles you haven't played any recent games with would still be a very nice QOL

That's another subject. There's people here not looking after 'making friends' or who just mant their IRL friends in their list. A way to filter or block friend request would be welcome by some. But here we're clashing with Steam being not only a gaming social space but a game store and broadcasting what you're doing, playing and buying to as many people as possible is a marketing channel for the store. [/quote]
Steam may be a “social” platform, but that doesn’t mean I should have to engage. Maybe the only people I want seeing what I’m doing are my friends. (Yes, I know that’s already an option) I still don’t want to see friend requests from profiles that I clearly have never interacted with. But fine, let’s say you switch the option from on by default, so now it’s something you need to turn on manually. I still think it would be a nice QOL feature.