Hide games that rely on Kernel level bloatware
The store needs a persistent filter to hide games that require Kernel-level appendages to be installed (e.g. Denuvo). I don't want this kind of attack vector to be opened up on my computer. The store already tags it.
If the game requires it, fair enough. I just don't want to buy it.

Similar filters would be appreciated for games tagged to require agreement to certain third party EULAs, or to install third party loaders (e.g. Origin).
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I need these filter options, I hate denuvo & third party launchers.
100%. I just don't care to see those anymore.
Crashed 6 Sep @ 1:01pm 
Originally posted by Ankh:
The store needs a persistent filter to hide games that require Kernel-level appendages to be installed (e.g. Denuvo). I don't want this kind of attack vector to be opened up on my computer. The store already tags it.
If the game requires it, fair enough. I just don't want to buy it.

Similar filters would be appreciated for games tagged to require agreement to certain third party EULAs, or to install third party loaders (e.g. Origin).
Denuvo (the DRM) isn't kernel level and does not require any installations. Please do not spread misinformation.
1: Denuvo isn't kernel level.

2: Valve cannot force the game devs to do anything in regards to launchers.

Many games that use their own servers will use their own launcher to access those servers. Steam itself is the third party, the games devs are the first party in regards to games not developed by Valve.
Last edited by HikariLight; 6 Sep @ 2:50pm
Crashed 6 Sep @ 3:29pm 
Originally posted by HikariLight:
1: Denuvo isn't kernel level.

2: Valve cannot force the game devs to do anything in regards to launchers.

Many games that use their own servers will use their own launcher to access those servers. Steam itself is the third party, the games devs are the first party in regards to games not developed by Valve.
I made sure to specify the anti-piracy for #1 because they do offer a kernel-mode anti-cheat which is only used by a small number of games.
As for #2, that isn't kernel mode either, and any adverse action against developers for using launchers would most likely result in anti-trust proceedings.
Originally posted by Crashed:
Originally posted by HikariLight:
1: Denuvo isn't kernel level.

2: Valve cannot force the game devs to do anything in regards to launchers.

Many games that use their own servers will use their own launcher to access those servers. Steam itself is the third party, the games devs are the first party in regards to games not developed by Valve.
I made sure to specify the anti-piracy for #1 because they do offer a kernel-mode anti-cheat which is only used by a small number of games.
As for #2, that isn't kernel mode either, and any adverse action against developers for using launchers would most likely result in anti-trust proceedings.
If the recent naughty behavior of payment providers didn't result in such proceedings, it is highly unlikely it would result in such for Valve if they made such a choice.
Crashed 6 Sep @ 4:04pm 
Originally posted by William Shakesman:
Originally posted by Crashed:
I made sure to specify the anti-piracy for #1 because they do offer a kernel-mode anti-cheat which is only used by a small number of games.
As for #2, that isn't kernel mode either, and any adverse action against developers for using launchers would most likely result in anti-trust proceedings.
If the recent naughty behavior of payment providers didn't result in such proceedings, it is highly unlikely it would result in such for Valve if they made such a choice.
Are launchers likely to be considered obscene under the Miller test?
Of course this has gone way past the subject of the thread which was OP's concern about games shipping with kernel-mode components while citing components that are not kernel-mode.
Last edited by Crashed; 6 Sep @ 4:11pm
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