Possible Idea to Verify Age for games and websites
The following is my suggestion to Valve and similar launchers and even browsers to protect kids without removing legal content from adults. With it being more secure and harder for kids to bypass.

I present:

The Age Verification Device. Or AVD for short.

- Must be purchased with an ID scan online, with in person options existing. Ex. Gamestop, Walmart,
etc. *They might not ask for ID for in person purchase if you look adult, though they could require it later.*

- The device would be a simple USB device that, when first plugged into an appropriate device would prompt an Activation window.

- Said activation window would request an Activation code, which would have either been sent via Email if given. OR printed on a receipt upon purchase. *Similar format to a steam card code*

- It would also request a birthday, which upon entering it it. The device would become active, optionally linked to the user's email. *Could mandate the email for added insurance later on*

- It would also bind the current date, gathered via online connection to avoid system bypasses of the clock.

- The Only Information stored on the device would be: "Birthday of the User, Date/Time of Activation, Unique On-Board identifier, and possible Email" *If it's to verify age it should NOT require a name or address of the person's home.*

-Could also add additional security options such as requiring a password or pin to complete verification every time, to ensure no kid just steals the device or you leave it plugged in. *Can not be pasted into the prompt. Must be typed in. But can be simple as a 5 digit number code that possibly needs to be changed after some time*

- Anytime you try to view a kid Inappropriate content, you would be prompted with: "Please Insert AVD into USB port now to continue" *Maybe have it auto eject if plugged in for too long to avoid parents just leaving it in.* Yeah don't even say WHAT AVD is in the prompt.

- Once you are on the site, or even browser after the AVD was verified you can continue to view it as long as you don't refresh it. Or after a given time. While for games, it would be as long as you are playing it. But if it closes or crashes? You'd have to plug it back in when launching it.

- The Launchers or browsers could also reserve the right to REVOKE the device's verification if they find the user isn't genuine, OR if they suspect you gave access to someone else. *Basically the AVD would no longer work at all until it gets sent back to the company for a full reset*. Repeat offenders would be BANNED from buying the device again, while game launcher that it was bound to would be locked to kid friendly games only. Anything rated lower than T.


After all... Birthdays are a popular way to verify one's age, but simply typing one in can easily be done, and lied about.. But if it's bound to a physical device that has to be bought with an ID... Much harder.

I don't know about anyone else, but I for one would definitely buy that as an alternative to using an ID directly.

Well that and re-loadable steam cards, since that would be amazing.
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Steam refuses to use any age verification system that requires a government ID, as that is info they don't want and have no right to.
It is also a security risk for collecting that kind of personal information.
Plagen 3 Aug @ 11:33am 
Doesn't Steam already have Parental Control settings? We don't need no garbage ID verification system. If I'm paying with a credit card, I'm obviously an adult. Parents need to control their kids. If they don't understand technology enough to setup things for their kids, they should just not let their kids use that technology.
mldb88 3 Aug @ 11:43am 
Originally posted by Plagen:
Doesn't Steam already have Parental Control settings? We don't need no garbage ID verification system. If I'm paying with a credit card, I'm obviously an adult. Parents need to control their kids. If they don't understand technology enough to setup things for their kids, they should just not let their kids use that technology.

I have a feeling this is another misguided response to the visa/mc issue, which this solution wouldn’t work for anyway since the problem is that the content is being sold on Steam period.
llama 3 Aug @ 12:04pm 
Not a bad idea in theory, but verifying age isn't really the point of these laws. More about ease of censorship and tracking. The protecting kids thing is just a PR friendly justification. Any idea that threatens that overall model won't be supported.
Plagen 3 Aug @ 12:11pm 
Originally posted by mldb88:
Originally posted by Plagen:
Doesn't Steam already have Parental Control settings? We don't need no garbage ID verification system. If I'm paying with a credit card, I'm obviously an adult. Parents need to control their kids. If they don't understand technology enough to setup things for their kids, they should just not let their kids use that technology.

I have a feeling this is another misguided response to the visa/mc issue, which this solution wouldn’t work for anyway since the problem is that the content is being sold on Steam period.

The problem isn't that it is on Steam. The problem is that parents let their kids freely search on a site that sells that. Like, Amazon sells porn and sex toys too. When are those going to get removed? I mean, think of children, bla bla bla.

Man, who even cares about kids? I was watching porn as a kid and playing M rated games too. I'm not out here mistreating women or being violent. If a kid searching for something online, they clearly already know it exists. Why not just let them see it?
I suggested exactly the same thing elsewhere. Works for me if it's anonymous. There's no reason for the age verification to actually share sensitive data. That's pure stupidity.
Originally posted by HikariLight:
Steam refuses to use any age verification system that requires a government ID, as that is info they don't want and have no right to.
It is also a security risk for collecting that kind of personal information.

Oh you miss understand me, valve wouldn't even SEE the ID in my idea of it.

Let me ask you, when someone buys "Mike's Hard Lemonade" at a place like Walmart... Does "Mike's Hard Lemonade Co" collect your ID information?

No... As someone who worked in retail before, the ID is just needed to unlock the register to complete the purchase. No ID, means no purchase can be made.

In my suggestion, you'd ONLY be able to buy the verification card in person. No Online option available..

You'd have to buy the card at a store, like Walmart, Wegmans, Gamestop, etc.
Much in the same way as buying a beer.

Where you get the item, possibly locked behind a case or requires activation at the register similar to the gift cards.
Then you have to show an ID, the cashier confirms it's real, sometimes scanning it if they think it's fake. Then possibly confirm the birthday listed, then on activation it binds the PIN on the back to the birthday information you gave. Which they typed in after you confirmed it.

With valve just needing you to submit a temporary picture of the front of the card, and confirm the PIN on the back. Possibly later requiring an additional password added to the card.
To make it harder for a kid to simply know the pin.
Originally posted by Plagen:
Doesn't Steam already have Parental Control settings? We don't need no garbage ID verification system. If I'm paying with a credit card, I'm obviously an adult. Parents need to control their kids. If they don't understand technology enough to setup things for their kids, they should just not let their kids use that technology.

Except that credit card age verifications aren't recognised in Germany... which is the reason why a huge number of adult-only games are blocked in Germany...
Actually the best idea is a one time age verification on the ISP on all existing and future customers and then when you remove said parental filter that's it, no more age verification. If you remove that parental filter it is a binding contract where you are absolving any website, online store, game or user on the internet of responsibility for anyone on your network and that internet companies only have an obligation to remove content which is recognised as illegal under criminal laws

But this approach would require the government to admit the OSA doesn't work and to bite the bullet and call out the OSA precisely for what it is, an act which gave bad parents a free pass to neglect their children by making it other peoples responsibility to prevent their children accessing inappropriate content
Last edited by Hellstorm901; 1 Sep @ 3:15pm
I think the best idea is if the UK government were simply told where they can stick their age verification requirements and we can all get back to normal, but that might be too much to hope for.
i got a better idea
it should send that if adult content was enabled it would then send a message to that users email but if that user has Parental Control settings enabled then it would send it to the parents account instead because it would increase the chance of their parents finding out
and so it would encourage parents to have the Parental Control enabled
and some children would have their own email so they would delete it instead but if it was sent to the parents email instead then it should lower the chance of their children from stopping their parents from finding out

and it would send a automated message at least once from 1 month or up to 1 year and it would depend on when its possible to allow adult content to be back on again but it would need some extra security to make sure it isn't fake to steal info such as sending a one time use password that is random every time

while this might not be as good as ID but it allows more freedom and it gets some parents to do their job while keeping our rights to buy any kind of mature games such as violent games to adult games
and if its in the rules and make it simple for people to see the rules by placing it in the top left corner in the section called view by adding one in there called rules
Last edited by guardian1368; 19 hours ago
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