Originally posted by Darth Triggerus ☯:

Over time bans become longer and longer, even if you don't get banned for a long time, when you do it will be a very long ban.

My last ban was for supporting a law that Trump did to save lives, and the Supreme Court affirmed it. I supported the law because it helped people who were at risk, and I was banned for a month.

Meanwhile I watched as people celebrated the murder of Charlie Kirk on this platform.

I think to make it fair, if someone isn't banned for a while or maybe at the end of the year their bans get reset.

Otherwise why would i spend money on a gaming company that hates me?

Some customers are not worth the trouble to keep.

I do not think there is a formal process documented for escalation or deescalation but from what I have observed I think there is a deescalation if you are on good behavior but the formal times and criteria are known only to Valve.

Another one of these, "I got banned because I'm right-wing and lefties don't get banned. So I should get special treatment for my bans." topic.

This may come as a shock, but according to MAGA, I'm on the left(Purely because I'm actually a conservative and not a reactionary). I have two permanent bans in hubs, my last ban on the general forums ended 2 months ago, and my last temp ban on game hub ended on the 24th.

You aren't being banned for being a right-winger. You're being banned for violating the rules. Valve doesn't hate you. Valve doesn't hate Right-wingers. Everyone that breaks the rules and gets reported for it gets the hammer after 2 warnings. That's how it works.

Or the user could simply learn to not violate the policies they agreed to.

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Originally posted by Darth Triggerus ☯:

Over time bans become longer and longer, even if you don't get banned for a long time, when you do it will be a very long ban.

My last ban was for supporting a law that Trump did to save lives, and the Supreme Court affirmed it. I supported the law because it helped people who were at risk, and I was banned for a month.

Meanwhile I watched as people celebrated the murder of Charlie Kirk on this platform.

I think to make it fair, if someone isn't banned for a while or maybe at the end of the year their bans get reset.

Otherwise why would i spend money on a gaming company that hates me?

Some customers are not worth the trouble to keep.

People will eventually have to learn that Valve is not their girlfriend and that these fantasies of their corporate girlfriend kicking everyone they disagree with online to the curb are quite silly.

Originally posted by Hi Im Swat:

Or the user could simply learn to not violate the policies they agreed to.

Of course following the rules eliminates the issue. Naturally, I am very good at this which is one of many reasons why I am one of the most respected and valued members of this board.

Originally posted by Amaterasu:

Another one of these, "I got banned because I'm right-wing and lefties don't get banned. So I should get special treatment for my bans." topic.

This may come as a shock, but according to MAGA, I'm on the left(Purely because I'm actually a conservative and not a reactionary). I have two permanent bans in hubs, my last ban on the general forums ended 2 months ago, and my last temp ban on game hub ended on the 24th.

You aren't being banned for being a right-winger. You're being banned for violating the rules. Valve doesn't hate you. Valve doesn't hate Right-wingers. Everyone that breaks the rules and gets reported for it gets the hammer after 2 warnings. That's how it works.

Steam was offered to come before Congress on Oct 8 to talk about how their platform is encouraging kids to violence.

Don't you think it's time to drop the argument that conservatives aren't being targeted.

I can't support a law that Trump created but people can glorify the murder of Charlie Kirk?

Look I'll do business with steam if they allow horrible opinions like that, but if steam continues to treat people unfairly based on how they vote, I think not only are they going to lose customers but they're going to the laws changed.

My opinion on being a free market capitalists changed because of my treatment on this platform.

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Originally posted by Darth Triggerus ☯:

Over time bans become longer and longer, even if you don't get banned for a long time, when you do it will be a very long ban.

My last ban was for supporting a law that Trump did to save lives, and the Supreme Court affirmed it. I supported the law because it helped people who were at risk, and I was banned for a month.

Meanwhile I watched as people celebrated the murder of Charlie Kirk on this platform.

I think to make it fair, if someone isn't banned for a while or maybe at the end of the year their bans get reset.

Otherwise why would i spend money on a gaming company that hates me?

Some customers are not worth the trouble to keep.

But it is trouble?

Their moderator doesn't appear to be largely NOT human anymore..maybe there's human elements but open a ticket and you'll get AI......you'll get automated responses.

So it is worth banning customers and potentially losing them or whats more changing the laws...Steam is testifying before Congress on how steam users are being radicalized on it's platforms.

I've been flagging all my unfair ban tickets with #Attention Congressional Oversight for the last 4 years because I knew this day would come.

I think even if a gamer is non-political they should be able to see the dangers in their treatment of people, the dangers being what future laws could impact Steam.

Originally posted by Darth Triggerus ☯:

Originally posted by Amaterasu:

Another one of these, "I got banned because I'm right-wing and lefties don't get banned. So I should get special treatment for my bans." topic.

This may come as a shock, but according to MAGA, I'm on the left(Purely because I'm actually a conservative and not a reactionary). I have two permanent bans in hubs, my last ban on the general forums ended 2 months ago, and my last temp ban on game hub ended on the 24th.

You aren't being banned for being a right-winger. You're being banned for violating the rules. Valve doesn't hate you. Valve doesn't hate Right-wingers. Everyone that breaks the rules and gets reported for it gets the hammer after 2 warnings. That's how it works.

Steam was offered to come before Congress on Oct 8 to talk about how their platform is encouraging kids to violence.

Don't you think it's time to drop the argument that conservatives aren't being targeted.

I can't support a law that Trump created but people can glorify the murder of Charlie Kirk?

Look I'll do business with steam if they allow horrible opinions like that, but if steam continues to treat people unfairly based on how they vote, I think not only are they going to lose customers but they're going to the laws changed.

My opinion on being a free market capitalists changed because of my treatment on this platform.

Congress grandstanding not know how Steam works is irrelevant.

You can't claim unfair treatment. If there was unfair treatment, the ban wouldn't have just been a month.

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Some customers are not worth the trouble to keep.

People will eventually have to learn that Valve is not their girlfriend and that these fantasies of their corporate girlfriend kicking everyone they disagree with online to the curb are quite silly.

Originally posted by Hi Im Swat:

Or the user could simply learn to not violate the policies they agreed to.

Of course following the rules eliminates the issue. Naturally, I am very good at this which is one of many reasons why I am one of the most respected and valued members of this board.

Except it doesn't I supported a law that Trump passed, and the Supreme Court ruled that it was fair.

My previous ban was quoting studies that contradicted the gender studies narrative. That ban was Dec of last year. 30 Days.

As for following the TOS...go look at the TOS and then look at all the rules that aren't enforced.

Originally posted by Darth Triggerus ☯:

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

People will eventually have to learn that Valve is not their girlfriend and that these fantasies of their corporate girlfriend kicking everyone they disagree with online to the curb are quite silly.


Of course following the rules eliminates the issue. Naturally, I am very good at this which is one of many reasons why I am one of the most respected and valued members of this board.

Except it doesn't I supported a law that Trump passed, and the Supreme Court ruled that it was fair.

My previous ban was quoting studies that contradicted the gender studies narrative. That ban was Dec of last year. 30 Days.

As for following the TOS...go look at the TOS and then look at all the rules that aren't enforced.

Post a screenshot of the ban message with the comment.

You're forgetting I'm frequently in OT. So I know much more than is being lead on.

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Originally posted by Darth Triggerus ☯:

Steam was offered to come before Congress on Oct 8 to talk about how their platform is encouraging kids to violence.

Don't you think it's time to drop the argument that conservatives aren't being targeted.

I can't support a law that Trump created but people can glorify the murder of Charlie Kirk?

Look I'll do business with steam if they allow horrible opinions like that, but if steam continues to treat people unfairly based on how they vote, I think not only are they going to lose customers but they're going to the laws changed.

My opinion on being a free market capitalists changed because of my treatment on this platform.

Congress grandstanding not know how Steam works is irrelevant.

You can't claim unfair treatment. If there was unfair treatment, the ban wouldn't have just been a month.

So if a moderator banned you for that post, and when you come back they ban you for simply say Hi Folks. And for every other first post after you ban...that wouldn't be unfair treatment because they didn't take your account away, an action that would likely get them sued?

There's comes a point where people who are treating the customer unfairly realizes that they're going to be going too far and if there's actual legal trouble and lawyers are looking at the reasons for these "good faith" actions, that not only could the moderator face trouble but the company could.

If Congress rulse that Steam is radicalizing people, it could lose its 230 protections, which likely means good-bye Off-topic. ...likely good bye game reviews by the customers.

Originally posted by Darth Triggerus ☯:

Originally posted by Amaterasu:

Another one of these, "I got banned because I'm right-wing and lefties don't get banned. So I should get special treatment for my bans." topic.

This may come as a shock, but according to MAGA, I'm on the left(Purely because I'm actually a conservative and not a reactionary). I have two permanent bans in hubs, my last ban on the general forums ended 2 months ago, and my last temp ban on game hub ended on the 24th.

You aren't being banned for being a right-winger. You're being banned for violating the rules. Valve doesn't hate you. Valve doesn't hate Right-wingers. Everyone that breaks the rules and gets reported for it gets the hammer after 2 warnings. That's how it works.

Steam was offered to come before Congress on Oct 8 to talk about how their platform is encouraging kids to violence.

Don't you think it's time to drop the argument that conservatives aren't being targeted.

I can't support a law that Trump created but people can glorify the murder of Charlie Kirk?

Look I'll do business with steam if they allow horrible opinions like that, but if steam continues to treat people unfairly based on how they vote, I think not only are they going to lose customers but they're going to the laws changed.

My opinion on being a free market capitalists changed because of my treatment on this platform.

Steam hasn't been banning people based on how they vote.
Steam doesn't even know how you vote.

Game hubs are moderated by the game devs, so it's on the game devs to keep things under control there.

In the general forums, if someone breaks the rules and is reported, Steam will ban them. But they really need to bring back the increasing punishment for each ban, to deal with the repeat offenders.

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Originally posted by Darth Triggerus ☯:

Except it doesn't I supported a law that Trump passed, and the Supreme Court ruled that it was fair.

My previous ban was quoting studies that contradicted the gender studies narrative. That ban was Dec of last year. 30 Days.

As for following the TOS...go look at the TOS and then look at all the rules that aren't enforced.

Post a screenshot of the ban message with the comment.

You're forgetting I'm frequently in OT. So I know much more than is being lead on.

I'm not looking to catch another ban. If your serious, I'll open a ticket, ask permission from a moderator to share a screenshot of that or if one is reading here give permission, and then friend you and send it privately.

I'd post it to my profile but I'm not looking to catch more heat...despite my anger and refusal to buy games for Steam until I deemed their bad behavior has sufficiently been punished, I do plan on purchasing from them sometime next year.

It's not what you say but how you say it. There are people supporting the KKK who do not get banned because they are polite and break no rules in their posts and there have been people who defended steam and got banned because they broke the rules in how they did so.

What you post means less then HOW you post it.

Originally posted by Darth Triggerus ☯:

Originally posted by Amaterasu:

Another one of these, "I got banned because I'm right-wing and lefties don't get banned. So I should get special treatment for my bans." topic.

This may come as a shock, but according to MAGA, I'm on the left(Purely because I'm actually a conservative and not a reactionary). I have two permanent bans in hubs, my last ban on the general forums ended 2 months ago, and my last temp ban on game hub ended on the 24th.

You aren't being banned for being a right-winger. You're being banned for violating the rules. Valve doesn't hate you. Valve doesn't hate Right-wingers. Everyone that breaks the rules and gets reported for it gets the hammer after 2 warnings. That's how it works.

Steam was offered to come before Congress on Oct 8 to talk about how their platform is encouraging kids to violence.

The administration like all previous administrations is giving the illusion of doing something about the epidemic of violence in this country that has been going on since Colombine. Which by the way, happened when I was in Elementary School. I still remember one of the teachers explaining how people were shot in that violent attack, keep in mind I hadn't hit puberty yet, and the Lost World of Jurassic Park was the newest Jurassic Park movie.

Originally posted by Darth Triggerus ☯:

Don't you think it's time to drop the argument that conservatives aren't being targeted.

Conservatives aren't being targeted for our political beliefs, I know a few fellow conservatives on this platform. We have never been targeted for wanting lower taxes and smaller government which are conservative beliefs.

Originally posted by Darth Triggerus ☯:

I can't support a law that Trump created but people can glorify the murder of Charlie Kirk?

Strawman argument. Merely supporting a law doesn't get someone banned. Violating the rules does.

Originally posted by Darth Triggerus ☯:

Look I'll do business with steam if they allow horrible opinions like that, but if steam continues to treat people unfairly based on how they vote, I think not only are they going to lose customers but they're going to the laws changed.

The laws aren't going to change in your favor. If you think Trump and Musk care about anyone except for themselves and their super rich buddies? I got several bridges in the Andromeda Galaxy to sell you. Real event horizon front property too, you can feel the gravitational lensing.

Originally posted by Darth Triggerus ☯:

My opinion on being a free market capitalists changed because of my treatment on this platform.

You are not a free market capitalist. Otherwise you would be saying that Steam is free to do whatever it wants while you are free to take your business anyhow