Why do you think they stopped doing those things? Do your "I wants", trump those reasons?

Originally posted by nullable:

Why do you think they stopped doing those things? Do your "I wants", trump those reasons?

I think maybe some bad actors figured some way to cheat the system and sell items on 3rd party sites and got scraps off Valves table - and it's maybe stuff not good for Valve - so they shut that stuff down.. Maybe.

Nothing wanting about it.

It's Christmas, not "X-mas".

Originally posted by WoJo ©:

It's Christmas, not "X-mas".

Yeah same thing man.

Originally posted by 𝓁 λ 𝓂 𝒷 𝒹 𝒶🎄:

Originally posted by WoJo ©:

It's Christmas, not "X-mas".

Yeah same thing man.

No, not really.

Originally posted by WoJo ©:

Originally posted by 𝓁 λ 𝓂 𝒷 𝒹 𝒶🎄:

Yeah same thing man.

No, not really.

No but I meant it like that - what is the problem?

I was half trying to just be non-religious about it, the holiday period, and sales events.

You're being argumentative for no reason.

It is a religious event. No point celebrating it if you are not religious.

Originally posted by WoJo ©:

It is a religious event. No point celebrating it if you are not religious.

Oh yeah totally, as much as you like - that's the spirit!

Always good to remember the important stuff.

Valve made Christmas disappear? That's quite the feat.

Originally posted by The Commendatore:

Valve made Christmas disappear? That's quite the feat.

Well, let's just see then eh - see if we get freebie trading cards and free card for crafting a badge, right.. Like we used to.

Originally posted by 𝓁 λ 𝓂 𝒷 𝒹 𝒶🎄:

Originally posted by nullable:

Why do you think they stopped doing those things? Do your "I wants", trump those reasons?

I think maybe some bad actors figured some way to cheat the system and sell items on 3rd party sites and got scraps off Valves table - and it's maybe stuff not good for Valve - so they shut that stuff down.. Maybe.

Nothing wanting about it.

Well people like the idea that something bad happened. Try this one on for size though. Once upon a time digital distribution and Steam sales were new. So large events attracted attention and was a chance to get users to use parts of the platform and become familiar with features. The events could also be a test run for new features and whatnot.

But those events are large and complex to put together. It's a lot of developer time and effort from artists and everyone else involved.

But at a certain point it's not the dawn of Steam sales and digital distribution. Large events aren't generating engagement or increased sales. Why would Valve do all that work if there's no real value in it? People liking something, goodwill, 'giving back' or whatever sounds fine, but when the rubber meets the road, the dollar value of any of that is nil.

After all, think of all the goodwill Epic should have for giving away free games every week for years? Goodwill should be coming out their ears. Steam still dominates PC gaming.

I liked the grand events too. And who knows maybe someday they'll come back around. But for the time being they were a lot of work for less and less value. And minimizing all that, for years now, hasn't seemed to cause users to flock to other stores, or dramatically reduce/change their spending. That's the thing, Valve can see the impacts of their decisions. If complex events mattered really, Valve would still do them.

Originally posted by WoJo ©:

It is a religious event. No point celebrating it if you are not religious.

Christmas has been a commercial event for a long time now. Just another way for businesses to get you to splurge money that often isn't yours to begin with (credit cards)

What about a Space Invaders mini-game clone? We could have 1-2 tickets per day and high scores could accumulate to a free trading card for a Christmas badge.

Valve hasn't done away with the Winter sale badge.

While we're here, in suggestions / ideas, maybe this is in vain - but it would also be nice if foil badges were worth twice or 1.5 as much as normal badges, just would be nice is all..