We are able to narrow down the reviews in a few different ways, time played being one of them.

The up vote / down vote system works. Any additional information can be put in the text box, where we're free to give it a 3/5 or a 7/10 or however we see fit. It works well.

Originally posted by Duel Sundown:

We are able to narrow down the reviews in a few different ways, time played being one of them.

The up vote / down vote system works. Any additional information can be put in the text box, where we're free to give it a 3/5 or a 7/10 or however we see fit. It works well.

There is no "Average time played" for all players metric. I don't want to spend time going through every single review and get an average.

As for the vote system. "It works". Why do you think bascially all systems and reviewers, not just in gaming but finance, healthcare, uses a 1-5 type of system? There is no single reason you can come up why current system is better. There are plenty of people, including myself, who want to put neither upvote or downvote for a game.

Complete madness that people like you do not even see that

Originally posted by Amorist:

As for the vote system. "It works". Why do you think bascially all systems and reviewers, not just in gaming but finance, healthcare, uses a 1-5 type of system? There is no single reason you can come up why current system is better. There are plenty of people, including myself, who want to put neither upvote or downvote for a game.

It's a good thing then that Steam is not asking you for a vote. They are simply asking you to answer a yes or no question, do you recommend this game? If you cannot recommend it, then you answer no. It's not rocket science.

Originally posted by Amorist:

Complete madness that people like you do not even see that

Same, but for other reasons.

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

Originally posted by Amorist:

As for the vote system. "It works". Why do you think bascially all systems and reviewers, not just in gaming but finance, healthcare, uses a 1-5 type of system? There is no single reason you can come up why current system is better. There are plenty of people, including myself, who want to put neither upvote or downvote for a game.

It's a good thing then that Steam is not asking you for a vote. They are simply asking you to answer a yes or no question, do you recommend this game? If you cannot recommend it, then you answer no. It's not rocket science.

Originally posted by Amorist:

Complete madness that people like you do not even see that

Same, but for other reasons.

Last answer to you trolls. Why do you think the world uses a 1-5 rating system in 95% of cases? Do you think reviewers should just have a upvote and downvote? Why do you think reviewers use 1-5?

1-5/10 star reviews never are useful for me. Less is more in that for me.

Average time played is useless on Steam itself. Idling, offline play, replays, etc skews it.

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

1-5/10 star reviews never are useful for me. Less is more in that for me.

Average time played is useless on Steam itself. Idling, offline play, replays, etc skews it.

What site do you use to read reviews? Since you dislike 1-5 that majority of news sites have for games. Really curious. Hint: There are none and you are all just contrarians.

As for "It being a usless metric". Yes...that is why steam includes it...You realize it would still give information relatively, since all games have afkers?

Originally posted by Amorist:

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

1-5/10 star reviews never are useful for me. Less is more in that for me.

Average time played is useless on Steam itself. Idling, offline play, replays, etc skews it.

What site do you use to read reviews? Since you dislike 1-5 that majority of news sites have for games. Really curious. Hint: There are none and you are all just contrarians.

I only read negative reviews on Steam to see why people stopped playing.

I use GoG, Amazon and such. I mnow they all use 5 star, which is why I know it's useless to me. From experience.

Having a different preference isn't being contrarian. Don't be a jerk.

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

Originally posted by Amorist:

What site do you use to read reviews? Since you dislike 1-5 that majority of news sites have for games. Really curious. Hint: There are none and you are all just contrarians.

I only read negative reviews on Steam to see why people stopped playing.

I use GoG, Amazon and such. I mnow they all use 5 star, which is why I know it's useless to me. From experience.

Having a different preference isn't being contrarian. Don't be a jerk.

There you go. "Only reading negative reviews" is like 1% of the population.

It is contrarian. Would be like me answering a thread about "What do you think about this?" without using the normal way using it. It is quite relevant fact that you only read negative reviews dont you think?

If you don't want to be a contrarian and jerk, you can say "That just does not fit me because I use it in a really weird way, but I could see the relevance since that is how majority of reviews and system rate stuff. So it could definitely serve a purpose for others".

Originally posted by Amorist:

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

It's a good thing then that Steam is not asking you for a vote. They are simply asking you to answer a yes or no question, do you recommend this game? If you cannot recommend it, then you answer no. It's not rocket science.

Last answer to you trolls. Why do you think the world uses a 1-5 rating system in 95% of cases? Do you think reviewers should just have a upvote and downvote? Why do you think reviewers use 1-5?

Reviewers aren't being asked for a vote. They are being asked to answer a question. You can keep ignoring this fact if it helps your narrative, but it won't change what's currently in place.

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

Originally posted by Amorist:

Last answer to you trolls. Why do you think the world uses a 1-5 rating system in 95% of cases? Do you think reviewers should just have a upvote and downvote? Why do you think reviewers use 1-5?

Reviewers aren't being asked for a vote. They are being asked to answer a question. You can keep ignoring this fact if it helps your narrative, but it won't change what's currently in place.

Bahaha I knew you were trolling. Ignored

Originally posted by Amorist:

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

I only read negative reviews on Steam to see why people stopped playing.

I use GoG, Amazon and such. I mnow they all use 5 star, which is why I know it's useless to me. From experience.

Having a different preference isn't being contrarian. Don't be a jerk.

There you go. "Only reading negative reviews" is like 1% of the population.

It is contrarian. Would be like me answering a thread about "What do you think about this?" without using the normal way using it. It is quite relevant fact that you only read negative reviews dont you think?

If you don't want to be a contrarian and jerk, you can say "That just does not fit me because I use it in a really weird way, but I could see the relevance since that is how majority of reviews and system rate stuff. So it could definitely serve a purpose for others".

No, it's preference. I only read reviews that suit me. When I go to check reviews, I want to know why people stopped playing. I already said that. I even prefer shorter playtime, refunded even. Why do people stop playing, that's the question I want answered in reviews.

I have no use for the rest of the reviews, they don't suit me. Not my preference.

That said, that you immediately call everyone who disagerees as "contrarian" is quite telling. You're clearly not in good faith here. Shame.

Originally posted by Amorist:

It is just madness to have upvote and downvote. Sure, you then average it amongst players but it still a reason every reviewer uses a 1-5 or 1-10 system.

The reason being they're just copying the other guy, who copied someone else, who copied someone else...

A a scale like that works in scenarios where the subject has objectively measurable attributes.
Stop to ask yourself what the tangible difference is between a 7/10 and a 6/10 game, There is none.

Originally posted by Amorist:

Then you should add "Average game time played" for a game since it is a very good metric. All in all, I think there are numerous changes that should be done to reviews.

And the most easily spoofed thing.

Originally posted by Start_Running:

Stop to ask yourself what the tangible difference is between a 7/10 and a 6/10 game, There is none.

^^ This. It's what makes it useless to me.

Every rating system is flawed, cause they all miss context at face value. What is important is what one wants to get out of the reviews.

1-5/10 also implies a quality scale. There is only subjectivity in reviews, as they're opinions. But personally I'm also not interested to know if a game is "good" or "technically well made". All that matters is whether a game is FUN.
The "do you recommend this game" question does fit that better than "How good would you rate a game on this scale".

I actually applaud review sites that don't work with ratings, but merely post the text.

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

Originally posted by Start_Running:

Stop to ask yourself what the tangible difference is between a 7/10 and a 6/10 game, There is none.

^^ This. It's what makes it useless to me.

Every rating system is flawed, cause they all miss context at face value. What is important is what one wants to get out of the reviews.

1-5/10 also implies a quality scale. There is only subjectivity in reviews, as they're opinions. But personally I'm also not interested to know if a game is "good" or "technically well made". All that matters is whether a game is FUN.
The "do you recommend this game" question does fit that better than "How good would you rate a game on this scale".

I actually applaud review sites that don't work with ratings, but merely post the text.

Hahah you guys un-ironically do not even understand Steam has the same rating system with "Overwhelming positive", "Positive" etc. but it is just not in numbers. I was just waiting to see how long it would take you contrarian to realize this. What I am asking for is being able to rate it from 1-5 to make it more accurate and also give the system number instead of text.

Where did someone state that this is the perfect system...? Basically no system is, not even democracy, it is merely better or worse. Which is the reason why society use a rating system and democracy everywhere. Typical contrarian argument.

And here is the funny thing: If you guys want to go to a site that just uses positive or negative, go for it! The rest of the world uses 1-5 and it should be on Steam too. You are in the minority and I guess that is why you try to be so loud.

End of discussion with the contrarians who have not outgrown their oppositional defiant disorder aaand blocked.

Originally posted by Amorist:

Hahah you guys un-ironically do not even understand Steam has the same rating system with "Overwhelming positive", "Positive" etc. but it is just not in numbers.

Not really. That is an aggregate of the reviews. basically taking a ration of the Yes's to No's.
It's a measure of consumer sentiment, not game quality per say.

Just because a game is overwhelmingly positive doesn't mean it's a game you or anyone will like. It could simply be a game designed to and successfully marketed to its specific niche audience.
People in the niche love it, and the 95% of people outside that niche barely know it exists.

Originally posted by Amorist:

I was just waiting to see how long it would take you contrarian to realize this. What I am asking for is being able to rate it from 1-5 to make it more accurate and also give the system number instead of text.

Should have probablky taken a better look at what the system is actually measuring. There's Nuance and context you're skipping over to confirm your bias.

Just because it has four legs, fur, and barks doesn't mean it's a dog.

Originally posted by Amorist:

And here is the funny thing: If you guys want to go to a site that just uses positive or negative, go for it! The rest of the world uses 1-5 and it should be on Steam too. You are in the minority and I guess that is why you try to be so loud.

So by that logic. You should go elsewhere since tyhe rest of the world uses it then.
It doesn't by the way. There is no shortage of pro reviewers that eschew any sort of numerical scoring. ANd they have made quite successful careers of it. Heck Siskel and ebert are one of many examples.