Oprindeligt skrevet af WuzzleFuzz The Wise:

Game Devs of Color Expo

Does it not feel weird to use your race to advertise your game?
Who exactly is even included in "of Color" anyway? Japan's certainly not marginalized when it comes to mainstream appeal, do they count?

This Expo event has been going on for years.

I hope the sale doesn't bother you too much

I was about to make the same topic, I find that notion odd. More fitting would be a an Expo just for People as Developer, doesnt stuff like this only do the opposite?

Inb4 "but what about white devs? This is racist!"

Oprindeligt skrevet af eram:

I hope the sale doesn't bother you too much

Oprindeligt skrevet af ุ:

Inb4 "but what about white devs? This is racist!"

I think it would also be strange if steam did a "White Devs Expo". Dividing devs by race feels weird, to say the least.
It is my understanding that highlighting a dev purely because they are or are not a certain race is inherently racist?

Game Devs of Color is a US-based non-profit. The US has a long history of disenfranchising people of color, so it's important to celebrate their achievements and success in spite of that disenfranchisement.

Some people with silver poisoning might be game devs? Do blue people not get to be celebrated in gaming?

And if anyone thinks that this is a joke. It's not. It's a condition called Argyria.

Oprindeligt skrevet af ุ:

Inb4 "but what about white devs? This is racist!"

I actually care more about their Statement:
"
..."The mission of Game Devs of Color Expo is to amplify the creative power held by people of color in games.

We do this by organizing revolutionary events, uniting our vibrant community, and building access to knowledge, funding, and opportunities.

Creators of color make great games but are often pushed to the margins. We fight to create a better games industry that is intersectional and equitable.

Watch this space for our broadcasts of the GDoCExpo Direct, demo showcase, dev interviews, and award ceremony, right here on Steam!"...

I think something like this, does the opposite of what they claim its for. You cant unite by exclusion, you can try to represent their work, yes but in this case its marketing. To be honest not really better its an objectification, in this case skincolor, to explain it simple its nothing more like the sex sells argument. Of course if you view it as a marketing strategy.

If not its still excluding while trying to be inclusive, I really dont get that. Do the same with Mexicans or Japanese or people from a random town in North India. They all would exclude a sizeble audience base.

Creativity (creating games) is to my knowledge a mix of skill, determination, knowledge, innate talent and the wish to create. So to say brainpower made reality. Last I checked their brains are the same as everyone else, so why reduce yourself to the color of your skin?

I really mean that, I dont doubt there are rasist people on the planet, but I never checked who made my game. At least not often, so I doubt there is any random racism towards faceless games and yes for me it does not matter what color my protagonist has.

This just seems counter to the goal mentioned. At least in my eyes.

Basically "Blacks in the US have been oppressed so long they ended up using a bunch of different terms to reference themselves as each previous one was turned into a slur by their oppressors, and now we will pretend to not understand what is meant by the terms used". How very edgy.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Jechob:

Game Devs of Color is a US-based non-profit. The US has a long history of disenfranchising people of color, so it's important to celebrate their achievements and success in spite of that disenfranchisement.

But is that still the case? I doubt it. It seems only america still sees it this way. I think as mentioned before, its counterproductiv. To exclude anyone in the name of inclusion just holds the sentiment it still happens alive, instead of letting real inclusion exist.

Its just more black privilege. There will never be equality in the US until we start treating everyone as equals. But they dont want equality, they want their turn to be the oppressors.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Jechob:

Game Devs of Color is a US-based non-profit. The US has a long history of disenfranchising people of color, so it's important to celebrate their achievements and success in spite of that disenfranchisement.

Perhaps they should be celebrated for their achievements as individuals rather than grouped into some amorphous mass.
My opinion of someone's accomplishment isn't really shifted positively just because they are or are not a member of a certain race or vague ethnic group, that doesn't pop into my mind as a deciding factor when I'm shopping for video games.

Oprindeligt skrevet af sfnhltb:

Basically "Blacks in the US have been oppressed so long they ended up using a bunch of different terms to reference themselves as each previous one was turned into a slur by their oppressors, and now we will pretend to not understand what is meant by the terms used". How very edgy.

Do you mean to imply this is mainly just meant to focus on black american game devs? That seems rather specific and equally strange.

Oprindeligt skrevet af WuzzleFuzz The Wise:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Jechob:

Game Devs of Color is a US-based non-profit. The US has a long history of disenfranchising people of color, so it's important to celebrate their achievements and success in spite of that disenfranchisement.

Perhaps they should be celebrated for their achievements as individuals rather than grouped into some amorphous mass.
My opinion of someone's accomplishment isn't really shifted positively just because they are or are not a member of a certain race or vague ethnic group, that doesn't pop into my mind as a deciding factor when I'm shopping for video games.

Oprindeligt skrevet af sfnhltb:

Basically "Blacks in the US have been oppressed so long they ended up using a bunch of different terms to reference themselves as each previous one was turned into a slur by their oppressors, and now we will pretend to not understand what is meant by the terms used". How very edgy.

Do you mean to imply this is mainly just meant to focus on black american game devs? That seems rather specific and equally strange.

Didnt even think about this part, if thats only applied to america and it is shown on a global platform doesn´t this do the opposit of achieving equality?

Yes, segregation will help unite us...

Shame on, Valve.

Oprindeligt skrevet af XelNigma:

Its just more black privilege. There will never be equality in the US until we start treating everyone as equals. But they dont want equality, they want their turn to be the oppressors.

I would advise care with your words. I am under the impression that "they" in this case is referring to black americans as a monolith, but I know there are many whom would be categorized as such that are also deeply opposed to special treatment even of themselves if it's purely because of their skin.