Steam online gaming down for me (gerrmany)
cant play games on steam online. frind has same problem, i tried BoB, the isle, and ark asa. i can play online games on other platfroms, so i assume its a steam problem
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same here. It gives me an Epic Online error
thats good @tortoise128, that means its not on our end ^^
Kai 20 Oct @ 3:24am 
It's a large outage supposedly linked to AWS.
drsxzgsa 20 Oct @ 3:27am 
Related?

“Snapchat, Roblox and several banks among major apps down in Amazon internet services outage”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c5y8k7k6v1rt
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Kai 20 Oct @ 3:34am 
Originally posted by drsxzgsa:
Related?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c5y8k7k6v1rt

Originally posted by Kai:
It's a large outage supposedly linked to AWS.
^Yes.

The fact EOS and EAC among other kernel anti-cheats and online gaming services, online social services as well as full-on online government services are utilizing AWS should really concern you all and not strictly on aspects concerning reliability but also security.

It's a grim harbinger of things to come.
Wolfpig 20 Oct @ 3:47am 
Originally posted by Kai:
Originally posted by drsxzgsa:
Related?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c5y8k7k6v1rt

Originally posted by Kai:
It's a large outage supposedly linked to AWS.
^Yes.

The fact EOS and EAC among other kernel anti-cheats and online gaming services, online social services as well as full-on online government services are utilizing AWS should really concern you all and not strictly on aspects concerning reliability but also security.

It's a grim harbinger of things to come.


The majority of Services use aws..... even Netflix & Disney host their streaming content on their servers.


And the problem is not that it is aws, but would happen with every Single major server host.
Kai 20 Oct @ 3:52am 
Originally posted by Wolfpig:
Originally posted by Kai:


^Yes.

The fact EOS and EAC among other kernel anti-cheats and online gaming services, online social services as well as full-on online government services are utilizing AWS should really concern you all and not strictly on aspects concerning reliability but also security.

It's a grim harbinger of things to come.


The majority of Services use aws..... even Netflix & Disney host their streaming content on their servers.


And the problem is not that it is aws, but would happen with every Single major server host.
Yes, hence why I specified government services even.

The problem is that it is AWS because that's where the outage is coming from at present. No one has to say anything about other companies potentially having this issue, that's simply logical so I'm not sure what your purpose in stating that is? but you should consider AWS' primary location which is why I said that all these services utilizing this particular service is a grim harbinger of things to come.
AI: AWS does not have a single "primary location" but operates globally across numerous regions and availability zones for redundancy and performance.
However, the US East (N. Virginia) region (us-east-1) is often referred to as a default or primary region for initial account setup, as it was the first one created and historically had the most services available.


NOTE: severe storms across the US right now.
Last edited by Deacon the destroyer; 20 Oct @ 4:08am
Kai 20 Oct @ 4:15am 
Originally posted by Deacon the destroyer:
AI: AWS does not have a single "primary location" but operates globally across numerous regions and availability zones for redundancy and performance.
However, the US East (N. Virginia) region (us-east-1) is often referred to as a default or primary region for initial account setup, as it was the first one created and historically had the most services available.


NOTE: severe storms across the US right now.
Virginia is indeed the primary.
Only a few examples were mentioned on the news pages. Well, News sites these days often have the same source and good journalism is almost extinct.

In fact, approx 4% of the global websites are hosted on/with Amazon services. That's around affected 57.6 million websites in this area alone. Without naming all the other services. Amazon AWS has around 30% market share. Microsoft Azure has around 20%.

For gaming these days, games primarily use (regardless of whether end-user client or product) Amazon API Gateway, Amazon DynamoDB, Amazon EC2, Amazon GameLift, Amazon S3 Transfer Acceleration, Amazon Simple Storage Service S3, AWS AppSync, AWS Elastic Beanstalk, AWS Elastic Load Balancing, AWS Global Accelerator, AWS Security Token Service, Amazon Cloudfront, Amazon Redshift, Amazon Athena, Amazon Kinesis and more.

Of course, this also affects stuff like Denuvo Anti-Tamper, Cloud saves, CDN functions, ads and telemetry or various anti-cheat mechanisms.

Unity Engine as example and everything related is using Google Compute (GCE).

If something would break down again, maybe for a longer time, there would be a whole series of problems, because everything is with one provider. Especially in the area of everyday and critical infrastructure (e.g. Defense, Energy)

It would even be good to wake people up.
Last edited by ペンギン; 20 Oct @ 5:01am
Kai 20 Oct @ 5:03am 
Originally posted by ペンギン:
Only a few examples were mentioned on the news pages. Well, News sites these days often have the same source and good journalism is almost extinct.

In fact, approx 4% of the global websites are hosted on/with Amazon services. That's around 57.6 million websites in this area alone. Without naming all the other services.

For gaming these days, it is primarily (regardless of whether end-user client or game) EC2, Accelerator, S3, DynamoDB, RedShift, Storage Gateway, Beanstalk. Includes Denuvo Anti-Tamper, serveral Anti-Cheat mechanics, game servers, telemetry and ad services (they deserved the outage), cloud saves, cdn and more.

If something would break down again, maybe for a longer time, there's likely to be quite a lot of problems, because everything is with one provider. Especially in the area of everyday and critical infrastructure.

It would even be good to wake people up.
It should be or rather, should've been a long long time ago yet apparently we have people relying on AI for even general knowledge these days.

The reason all of these services are centralized and are becoming increasingly centralized is data which is why I made it a point to emphasize the location (Virginia) and unlike the user spouting their faux downplay about Amazon and its AWS not possessing a primary location, Virginia is effectively the heart of intelligence and this is why they are nestled cozily, deliberately > strategically right next to the NSA complex as well as the CIA, Langley being one such entity that prides itself on crapping up the internet with all manner of online monitoring and psychological operations.

All of that traffic is being routed there and incentivized to be centralized there en masse because it is being harvested and then aggregated by Palantir. It's likely one of the only places in the world that can store and process that grade of data throughput.

AWS and co host this platform. Moments like these are not "oopsies" but much to the tune of what you say, a warning, a wake up call. It will get worse and if people do not disavow and outright reject digital ID and continue allowing PII to run wild then it will spell their end.
Originally posted by Kai:
It will get worse and if people do not disavow and outright reject digital ID and continue allowing PII to run wild then it will spell their end.
My text was adjusted a bit, to include a few details that are verifiably.

Well, to counteract that, the current system have to be destroyed worldwide, companies like Amazon possibilities for retreating must be eliminated and people would have to give up their supposed comforts. Won't happen. Not even in the foreseeable future.

But it has been known for decades now, and nothing has been done about it for just as long. Except that governments and corporations have gone in public offensive. Yes, it will be exciting either way. Viewed purely objectively.
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