post all the sources because it wont go anywhere you are already buying a licence and the agreement has always been you are purchasing a licence

Valve have always stated that you're buying a license. It's your fault you don't read what you're buying.

Originally posted by eram:

post all the sources because it wont go anywhere you are already buying a licence and the agreement has always been you are purchasing a licence

Just look it up lol, it's hot news right now. We are all well aware that we've been LEASING, not buying btw, leasing, licenses.

THE POINT, is that it should flat out say that. So we will see, if amazon loses that case, then yes steam could be next, if they win then it'll probably be the last time that issue hits courts.

post all your sources here
you are already buying a licence and the agreement has always been you are purchasing a licence

Originally posted by MightyMonte88:

THE POINT, is that it should flat out say that. So we will see, if amazon loses that case, then yes steam could be next, if they win then it'll probably be the last time that issue hits courts.

it does, use eyes

Originally posted by MightyMonte88:

Originally posted by eram:

post all the sources because it wont go anywhere you are already buying a licence and the agreement has always been you are purchasing a licence

Just look it up lol, it's hot news right now. We are all well aware that we've been LEASING, not buying btw, leasing, licenses.

THE POINT, is that it should flat out say that. So we will see, if amazon loses that case, then yes steam could be next, if they win then it'll probably be the last time that issue hits courts.

If we were leasing, we'd be paying regular payments just to continue accessing the products.

We purchase a license to access the product, which we only have to pay once, unless the product is based around a subscription system.

There's a class action lawsuit about this sorta thing every 3 months. It's just a short-term fad to make lawyers rich and then things fade before any fruition. Only recognised legislative change would make any difference and even then it's just wording that will be changed/emphasised. Maybe Valve would have to add a disclaimer on every purchase that the user would have to check and validate so they know what they are buying. That's all it would ever amount to unless there is a radical industry-wide shift.

Originally posted by MightyMonte88:

Amazon facing class action lawsuit, steam could be next.

Originally posted by MightyMonte88:

Seems that people are fed up with being lead to believe they are buying a product, and not leasing a license, cough cough. If the class action lawsuit currently in action against amazon wins, steam could very well be next.

Interesting times we live in

Steam tells you that you're purchasing a license. The class action against Amazon claims that Amazon misled and did not disclose that. Major difference.
Also keys CAN be revoked, but that's usually when the key is obtained through theft/fraud.
Not sure why a lot of times when some unrelated company gets sued - usually just to try getting a company to fold to make it go away sooner - that "steam may be next!"

Nothing will happen to Steam. Softwares have been liscensed for over 30 years. Hell, even longer.

Especially since Valve made it pretty clear in the agreement and it now shows up for every single purchase.

I swear to god valve is like the short story/series, the fall of the house of usher.

Nothing sticks to those guys, its quite spooky. It quite literally looks like they may have made a deal with the devil.

But it's an intangible product. What are you actually buying?

Originally posted by eram:

post all the sources because it wont go anywhere you are already buying a licence and the agreement has always been you are purchasing a licence

This was never an issue with consoles before the internet. You bought the game and you owned it. So what’s changed?

Originally posted by drsxzgsa:

Originally posted by eram:

post all the sources because it wont go anywhere you are already buying a licence and the agreement has always been you are purchasing a licence

This was never an issue with consoles before the internet. You bought the game and you owned it. So what’s changed?

you never owned a console game no, you purchased a licence
the data on the disk.. never yours

Originally posted by drsxzgsa:

You bought the game and you owned it. So what’s changed?

You owned the physical container. The materials used in the shaping of the delivery system. You didn't "own" the data stored within. Again, people. Read what you're buying. Even instruction manuals from the days of yore told you that you were licensing the software / game.

Originally posted by eram:

Originally posted by drsxzgsa:

This was never an issue with consoles before the internet. You bought the game and you owned it. So what’s changed?

you never owned a console game no, you purchased a licence
the data on the disk.. never yours

Ah yes, the license. That license is meaningless. Look on ebay for ps2 games and you’ll see how meaningless that license nonsense is.

Think we need new laws that prevent companies from writing 900 page agreements which they know nobody will read. I mean in court there's a rule where you can't bombard your opposition with an unreasonable amounts of documents. I think consumers need similar protections.