Because a debt card can be owned by someone under 18, a credit card cannot. Steam are also not interested in collecting our details which is why they don't want to use the other methods.

If you want your mature games that badly, play them on another platform.

Are prepaid credit cards available over there? I wonder if they would work. It is not a good solution, since they will charge fees until the money is gone, but if it works you might be able to buy M rated games.

Originally posted by Hi Im Swat:

Because a debt card can be owned by someone under 18, a credit card cannot. Steam are also not interested in collecting our details which is why they don't want to use the other methods.

If you want your mature games that badly, play them on another platform.

Do you realise that this will happen to EVERY platform if they want to operate in UK? Even the so called beacon of gaming freedom GOG will have to implement age verification to be available in UK. Xbox already announced that they will do it. Also adult themed games is just the beginning. This will go further into COD, Battlefield, GTA etc. Any 18+ game will be hit. Also if Steam in not interested in collecting our details then how else are we supposed to verify our age? They certainly aren't making it easier. Let's be honest here this isn't about protecting our data or being least intrusive. The way they have done it was the laziest, easiest and cheapest way they could have done it and Steam is literally the only place that only lets you verify your age with credit card. Any other service let's you verify in multiple of ways. Valve has done this the worst possible way the could have done this.

You will need to wait and see if steam implements another method such as an ID or face scan.

Originally posted by Chompman:

You will need to wait and see if steam implements another method such as an ID or face scan.

Well they better do. How else non credit card holders will verify their age?

Originally posted by Northern Dj:

So with this new age verification what if you don't have a credit card and you don't want one i have never needed one so why can they not use another method or simply contact the bank

Credit cards only incur debts if you use them.

use alternative websites, alternative gaming platforms, don't create online accounts, surf the internet without signing into websites, or use the deep web, there are always alternatives instead of lying down and taking it because scum want your data. Any website that says they have no option but to collect your data and verify ages are nothing more than knee benders who are full of BS, when the websites asking for age verification web traffic declines to the point of going broke, they'll beg you to return.

Similar to ad blockers giving users the ability to bypass and block Ads, Similar to using different DNS servers that stop default ISP's from banning access to websites, there will be new technology either incorporated in browsers or extensions that offer users the ability to bypass online age checks. Privacy advocate and coders, will step up. the internet will never be regulated or controlled by government or corporations.

Originally posted by tongsau5150:

use alternative websites, alternative gaming platforms, don't create online accounts, surf the internet without signing into websites, or use the deep web, there are always alternatives instead of lying down and taking it because scum want your data. Any website that says they have no option but to collect your data and verify you age are nothing more than knee benders who are full of BS.

That's all well and good for people who just browse, but this doesn't work for people that actually want to buy and play games.

I have noticed an ocean of seeming misunderstanding about this topic.
In the US ( I am English and live in Tasmania) they need a credit card for just about everything.
Renting a home all the way down. Least in some or most states.

And so the credit card is synonymous with the majority.

In the UK and indeed here in Australia, the credit card is synonymous with debt by many, especially working class folk like myself.

Also what seems to be again misunderstood that if you are unemployed, disabled or perhaps for whatever reason have defaulted even once in your life, getting a credit card is not an option.

I believe around 35% of people of age in the UK do not own nor want a credit card.

P.S I am 61 and have never nor will ever have one.

I like to pay with money I have. Not imaginary.

Credit cards are just not available to some people either, for various reasons and some just don't want them. They are NOT an ID system and are NOT meant to be one! It's a financial product sold to people for profit.

The regulator giving advice for this law has given a list of options for verification, with very clearly inclusive options there, which others have also used just fine.

Originally posted by DxTrixterz:

Originally posted by Chompman:

You will need to wait and see if steam implements another method such as an ID or face scan.

Well they better do. How else non credit card holders will verify their age?

If they do then I'll largely start questioning why I'm on this platform to begin with.

Originally posted by Chelle:

I have noticed an ocean of seeming misunderstanding about this topic.
In the US ( I am English and live in Tasmania) they need a credit card for just about everything.
Renting a home all the way down. Least in some or most states.

And so the credit card is synonymous with the majority.

In the UK and indeed here in Australia, the credit card is synonymous with debt by many, especially working class folk like myself.

Also what seems to be again misunderstood that if you are unemployed, disabled or perhaps for whatever reason have defaulted even once in your life, getting a credit card is not an option.

I believe around 35% of people of age in the UK do not own nor want a credit card.

P.S I am 61 and have never nor will ever have one.

I like to pay with money I have. Not imaginary.

I'm not defending the horrendous decision to implement this system, but I've been on disability benefit for 20 years and I have a credit card. I know many people on benefits with credit cards.

Originally posted by MakitaRotSprout:

Originally posted by Chelle:

I have noticed an ocean of seeming misunderstanding about this topic.
In the US ( I am English and live in Tasmania) they need a credit card for just about everything.
Renting a home all the way down. Least in some or most states.

And so the credit card is synonymous with the majority.

In the UK and indeed here in Australia, the credit card is synonymous with debt by many, especially working class folk like myself.

Also what seems to be again misunderstood that if you are unemployed, disabled or perhaps for whatever reason have defaulted even once in your life, getting a credit card is not an option.

I believe around 35% of people of age in the UK do not own nor want a credit card.

P.S I am 61 and have never nor will ever have one.

I like to pay with money I have. Not imaginary.

I'm not defending the horrendous decision to implement this system, but I've been on disability benefit for 20 years and I have a credit card. I know many people on benefits with credit cards.

Most people that are disabled and or on low income cannot still get one.
I myself have spinal damage from an attack many years ago. I could choose to apply for one, alas I do not want one.

The majority tho do not have an option. That is just the facts. Exceptions always occur.

Originally posted by Chelle:

Originally posted by MakitaRotSprout:

I'm not defending the horrendous decision to implement this system, but I've been on disability benefit for 20 years and I have a credit card. I know many people on benefits with credit cards.

Most people that are disabled and or on low income cannot still get one.
I myself have spinal damage from an attack many years ago. I could choose to apply for one, alas I do not want one.

The majority tho do not have an option. That is just the facts. Exceptions always occur.

I'm in England. I don't know anyone who has been denied a credit card for being on benefits. They usually only deny them to people with bad credit. Maybe Tasmania has ableist restrictions. Strange, I thought your area was more progressive. The people you know who have been turned down should threaten to sue the banks for discrimination.

Originally posted by MakitaRotSprout:

Originally posted by Chelle:

Most people that are disabled and or on low income cannot still get one.
I myself have spinal damage from an attack many years ago. I could choose to apply for one, alas I do not want one.

The majority tho do not have an option. That is just the facts. Exceptions always occur.

I'm in England. I don't know anyone who has been denied a credit card for being on benefits. They usually only deny them to people with bad credit. Maybe Tasmania has ableist restrictions. Strange, I thought your area was more progressive. The people you know who have been turned down should threaten to sue the banks for discrimination.

Most card applications AFAIK will specifically say that benefits don't count as income and not to include them when stating your income. So if you're disabled or a full time carer for someone, you're SOOL.