Account is 21 years old but it doesn't mean that it's current user is an adult.

You don’t understand Dave, can I call you Dave, we need to censor the internet and stop adults buying “inappropriate games” because somewhere in the country there’s a parent who unable to raise their own child properly by just stopping them watching bad things on the internet now demand we all have to age verify so their child is safe online….until the same parent inevitably gets sick of their child complaining they can’t access websites to do their “homework” and gives them their debit card info which the child uses to buy Death Stranding and get Norman Reedus to verify them to access porn sites

But at least the child is safe online and that’s all that matters, just ignore the fact that a Labour MSP just got charged with possession inappropriate images of a child and our government is headed by a party composed of people who have actively tried to undermine attempts to get justice for historic child sex abuses

All that matters is that people can no longer access Huniepop

Originally posted by Aluvard:

Account is 21 years old but it doesn't mean that it's current user is an adult.

And your credit card info doesn’t prove you are 18, just that you have access to one

Originally posted by Hellstorm901:

Originally posted by Aluvard:

Account is 21 years old but it doesn't mean that it's current user is an adult.

And your credit card info doesn’t prove you are 18, just that you have access to one

You can't get CC unless you're 18. That way Valve is safe and responsibility lies on user, who used someone else card.

Originally posted by Aluvard:

Originally posted by Hellstorm901:

And your credit card info doesn’t prove you are 18, just that you have access to one

You can't get CC unless you're 18. That way Valve is safe and responsibility lies on user, who used someone else card.

I'm 27, i dont have a credit card, i have never needed a credit card. i'm perfectly happy with my debit card which you can get below eighteen...so i'm ♥♥♥♥♥♥

Originally posted by Hellstorm901:

Originally posted by Aluvard:

Account is 21 years old but it doesn't mean that it's current user is an adult.

And your credit card info doesn’t prove you are 18, just that you have access to one

hello
not sur that cc used by people under 18 can be used for buying stuff from internet ...
and at least it does not need gov link and check for a 'pseudo id' card created using claude or similar ♥♥♥♥
it's a quick and easy check that can't be ( atm) not fooled and use the current link and feature allready made under steam

a good exemple of this is the recent law forbidden young french people to have access to porn web site ...it need an id card that can be generate from internet ,if you need access ..
and no need of a vpn
https://next.ink/196980/sites-porno-les-systemes-de-verification-dage-valident-parfois-nimporte-quoi/

Originally posted by Sentinal:

Originally posted by Aluvard:

You can't get CC unless you're 18. That way Valve is safe and responsibility lies on user, who used someone else card.

I'm 27, i dont have a credit card, i have never needed a credit card. i'm perfectly happy with my debit card which you can get below eighteen...so i'm ♥♥♥♥♥♥

Someone on Reddit wrote to Support regarding that and it's highly likely, that they'll add additional verification method.

But they didn't post any info regarding "when", so...

Originally posted by Aluvard:

Originally posted by Hellstorm901:

And your credit card info doesn’t prove you are 18, just that you have access to one

You can't get CC unless you're 18. That way Valve is safe and responsibility lies on user, who used someone else card.

Sooooooo what you are saying is instead of the OSA all we need is adults to take responsibility and not give children access to mechanisms which enable them to access inappropriate content

Then how about we repeal the OSA and make a new offence under child abuse laws for enabling a child to access inappropriate content aka one time age verification at the ISP level and if you turn that off and you let your child view porn it’s your fault, not ours

Originally posted by bidulless:

Originally posted by Hellstorm901:

And your credit card info doesn’t prove you are 18, just that you have access to one

hello
not sur that cc used by people under 18 can be used for buying stuff from internet ...
and at least it does not need gov link and check for a 'pseudo id' card created using claude or similar ♥♥♥♥

All a child needs to add a credit card to their account is -
The card details - Which are on the card
The cards registers address - Which is likely the very home the child is living in
The cards CVC number - Very easy for a child to get by just sitting next to their parent as they enter it

At no point is anything done to identify if the person using that card is an adult, it just assumes they are. A supermarket wouldn’t accept you using a credit card for Challenge 25

Originally posted by Aluvard:

Account is 21 years old but it doesn't mean that it's current user is an adult.

Run me through that logic please.
I have owned the account for 21 years, the email address that its linked to for the same amount of time, and the paypal account I use to pay for games since paypal existed..... how would I be younger than 18? are you thinking fountain of youth? stasis pods? some sort of time travel accident?
Muppet.

Originally posted by Hellstorm901:

Originally posted by bidulless:

hello
not sur that cc used by people under 18 can be used for buying stuff from internet ...
and at least it does not need gov link and check for a 'pseudo id' card created using claude or similar ♥♥♥♥

All a child needs to add a credit card to their account is -
The card details - Which are on the card
The cards registers address - Which is likely the very home the child is living in
The cards CVC number - Very easy for a child to get by just sitting next to their parent as they enter it

At no point is anything done to identify if the person using that card is an adult, it just assumes they are. A supermarket wouldn’t accept you using a credit card for Challenge 25

hello
but can he buy stuff with this card on steam ?
i guess no because it bank account only allow him to some specific stuff and his country

Originally posted by Hellstorm901:

Originally posted by Aluvard:

You can't get CC unless you're 18. That way Valve is safe and responsibility lies on user, who used someone else card.

Sooooooo what you are saying is instead of the OSA all we need is adults to take responsibility and not give children access to mechanisms which enable them to access inappropriate content

Then how about we repeal the OSA and make a new offence under child abuse laws for enabling a child to access inappropriate content aka one time age verification at the ISP level and if you turn that off and you let your child view porn it’s your fault, not ours

^this
In our governments attempts to help parents circumvent thier responsibilities we are damaging our internet and rights. I know sites that just block the UK rather than deal with the new law, this law should never have passed.

Originally posted by NorfolkDave:

Originally posted by Aluvard:

Account is 21 years old but it doesn't mean that it's current user is an adult.

Run me through that logic please.
I have owned the account for 21 years, the email address that its linked to for the same amount of time, and the paypal account I use to pay for games since paypal existed..... how would I be younger than 18? are you thinking fountain of youth? stasis pods? some sort of time travel accident?
Muppet.

Simple. Valve wants to be 100% sure that current user is an adult. Despite it being against SSA, people tend to share their account with their younger siblings, give them away or sell them.

That way Valve is clear in the eye of the law; they added verification method that it's only available when you're >18 and they don't need to care if person is really >18. Responsibility now lies on someone else.

Originally posted by NorfolkDave:

I know sites that just block the UK rather than deal with the new law, this law should never have passed.

I lost access to Civitai and cannot access it because not only have the owners blocked the UK but said if they see any account accessing it from the UK they will be permanently banned and as their site has a sort of history thing they will know if your account if still using the site if you access with a VPN

Originally posted by Aluvard:

Originally posted by NorfolkDave:

Run me through that logic please.
I have owned the account for 21 years, the email address that its linked to for the same amount of time, and the paypal account I use to pay for games since paypal existed..... how would I be younger than 18? are you thinking fountain of youth? stasis pods? some sort of time travel accident?
Muppet.

Simple. Valve wants to be 100% sure that current user is an adult. Despite it being against SSA, people tend to share their account with their younger siblings, give them away or sell them.

That way Valve is clear in the eye of the law; they added verification method that it's only available when you're >18 and they don't need to care if person is really >18. Responsibility now lies on someone else.

I’ve literally sent a photo of my face with my valid UK drivers license to Steam and Steam refused to accept it even thought Category 1 websites would accept this and Ofcom says this is valid ID