Impatience and misunderstanding as to what Early access is.
Too many basically see it as a pre order with beta access.

Would they prefer Cyberpunk 2077 again?

How can you tell if they are trolls or just people keen to see the game leave early access?

Define "try to push".

I think when a large amount of people start to complain about a game that's been in early access for either a long time and/or development speed has been comparatively slow, it's not a matter of trying to force it out of EA. It's to light a fire under the team to stick to their promises. It's also a potential "buyers beware" sign.

"If the game is good" is a matter of taste, quite subjectively at times. 7D2D is a game that I don't consider to be good. It is my perfect example of how/why/when early access can be an absolute poopstorm. From completely switching engines and having unresolved optimization issues. To endless server wipes. To losing and having to dispute their rights over the console version of their game and spending a decade in EA (while still arguably EA in practice).

It's actually somewhat of a miracle that they haven't burnt through their playerbase.

some people treat EA like a live service, but it is more of a pre-order

My problem with EA games is that they usually get the "review boost" like complete ones and their overall rating doesn't represent their quality. This leads to cash grabs.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Scamdiver:

My problem with EA games is that they usually get the "review boost" like complete ones and their overall rating doesn't represent their quality. This leads to cash grabs.

Still deeming Grounded 2 is review boosted while having zero proof it has being.

I have 13 Early Access games in my library. All very playable, all very enjoyable. Archaelund, Erannorth Renaissance, Gloomwood, Stellar Tactics to name a few. I would recommend them all. Zero boosting required.

Then there were all the others that were released. Darkest Dungeon, Slay the Spire, Wantless, Baldur's Gate 3 to name a few. All great games in my opinion.

People lack patience.
People lack knowledge of how games are made.
People think Early Access is some sort of pre-release Beta, thinking the actual game is bound to release in a short while.

why would i care?

I want to play the game faster.

Early acess isn't designed to sit there for years nor to fund anything.

It exists to test games on a variety of rigs after the game is almost complete and nearly ready for release.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Shreddy:

How can you tell if they are trolls or just people keen to see the game leave early access?

In one EA title I have, despite the IT professionals explaining what EA means and how long things take, plus the requirement to get other parties approvals, and when the next beta release is scheduled for, the forum is full if whining "little kids" complaining how the devs stole their money.

I'd make that an immediate ban because defamation of a product is border-line lawsuit.

And every post will be how upset "we" are when they mean just "me". They must have skipped the English class in primary school. Recently someone associated with a similar game was sprung for making posts. Regardless of the nature of the post that's a no-no.

The titles that should be pulled off the shelves are the ones that make a release and then shortly later in IT terms version 2 is released as a new title.

Oprindeligt skrevet af robilar5500:

Early acess isn't designed to sit there for years nor to fund anything.

It exists to test games on a variety of rigs after the game is almost complete and nearly ready for release.

And this is why I insist the problem with Early Access is educational.

No, that's not what Early access is. That's what a pre-release Beta (or the new anticipated access, which people keep mistaking with Early Access) is for.

Yes, an Early Access game can sit in development for years, because games can take years to be made (And that's the ones who make it to a release, which are a portion of all the started game projects)

early access allows for people to work on the game like a 9-5 government job, which would result in mediocrity. i made a claim of 7 years in ea hell for 7dtd, i was wrong. it was more than a decade of early access hell. they nerf something fun and call it an update.

on the bright side, it made me realize years ago that i should stop getting games on steam which is actually a right call. you don't own games today.

Oprindeligt skrevet af hazecloud ( ☞♥◞ ♥):

. it was more than a decade of early access hell.

Lots of non early access games get stuck in development hell for years.
some examples:

DNF took 15 years to release.
Dragon Age Origins took 5 years
Fallout 3 took 6 years
FF XII: 5 years
FF XV: 10 whooping years
HL2: 5 years too
TF2: 8 years (Go Valve time!)
Starcraft 2: 7 Years
L.A. Noire: 7 years
TES Morrowind: 7 years.
Diablo III: 7 years
Aliens: Colonial Marines - 12 years.