When is VALVE going to stop bots?
I mean can't even have a semi normal discussion without them spamming some fraudulent skin place for CS2 to rob your account dry.

https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/discussions/forum/11/597413835511749043/
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Most of them are stolen accounts being use to spam it. All you can do is report them.
Originally posted by d3str0y3r:
Most of them are stolen accounts being use to spam it. All you can do is report them.
Plenty of bot accounts have been reported and there hasn't been any proper action taken due to how slow and inconsistent Valve is when it comes to responding reports.
Originally posted by Anti-Sauron:
I mean can't even have a semi normal discussion without them spamming some fraudulent skin place for CS2 to rob your account dry.

https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/discussions/forum/11/597413835511749043/

They already have, if you noted it captures their posts and won't display them, then its reviewed by a human and they are banned.
Lystent 7 Oct @ 1:14pm 
And by the looks of it, this thread just got a solid proof-of-point; looks to me like its getting a bit out of hand, unless Valve's contractor, or Valve themselves actually steps up.

(If I didn't know any better, I'd suggest it was these bots that pummeled the servers...)
Last edited by Lystent; 7 Oct @ 1:17pm
Originally posted by Lystent:
And by the looks of it, this thread just got a solid proof-of-point; looks to me like its getting a bit out of hand, unless Valve's contractor, or Valve themselves actually steps up.

I mean it looks like to me that its proof that they ARE stopping them. The post was blocked from showing afterall. I'd rather they manually review before banning instad of mass banning as the content checker in the past has false flagged stuff.

Who cares if it takes hours for that poster to get banned and his posts nuked when none of his posts will show up.
Lystent 7 Oct @ 1:24pm 
Originally posted by Angry Old Man:
Originally posted by Lystent:
And by the looks of it, this thread just got a solid proof-of-point; looks to me like its getting a bit out of hand, unless Valve's contractor, or Valve themselves actually steps up.

I mean it looks like to me that its proof that they ARE stopping them. The post was blocked from showing afterall. I'd rather they manually review before banning instad of mass banning as the content checker in the past has false flagged stuff.

Who cares if it takes hours for that poster to get banned and his posts nuked when none of his posts will show up.
To me, it looks like all that is keeping up right now is probably just a basic filter; these bots have just been posting the same "copy pasta" (yes, I can still go out of my way to look, and maybe the mentioned number is different, but the rest is the same). Anyways, I can't see how this won't eat up moderators' time when it comes time to process the posts afterwards.
Originally posted by Lystent:
Originally posted by Angry Old Man:

I mean it looks like to me that its proof that they ARE stopping them. The post was blocked from showing afterall. I'd rather they manually review before banning instad of mass banning as the content checker in the past has false flagged stuff.

Who cares if it takes hours for that poster to get banned and his posts nuked when none of his posts will show up.
To me, it looks like all that is keeping up right now is probably just a basic filter; these bots have just been posting the same "copy pasta" (yes, I can still go out of my way to look, and maybe the mentioned number is different, but the rest is the same). Anyways, I can't see how this won't eat up moderators' time when it comes time to process the posts afterwards.

A moderator can with a click ban the user and wipe out all the posts they made today with one click. So it takes seconds when reviewed.

Its much safer then automatically doing it and finding out you wiped out the posts from hundreds of users who didnt break any rules and falsely banned them.
Lystent 7 Oct @ 1:36pm 
Originally posted by Angry Old Man:
Originally posted by Lystent:
To me, it looks like all that is keeping up right now is probably just a basic filter; these bots have just been posting the same "copy pasta" (yes, I can still go out of my way to look, and maybe the mentioned number is different, but the rest is the same). Anyways, I can't see how this won't eat up moderators' time when it comes time to process the posts afterwards.

A moderator can with a click ban the user and wipe out all the posts they made today with one click. So it takes seconds when reviewed.

Its much safer then automatically doing it and finding out you wiped out the posts from hundreds of users who didnt break any rules and falsely banned them.
While I agree that it helps they are making sure they do it clean, I'm also a fan of nipping things in the bud (the bud being the ones running the bots). Granted, they could already be working on bringing down this (what appears to be a) blackmail op of a sort that is, or has, hijacked various accounts.
Last edited by Lystent; 7 Oct @ 1:37pm
Originally posted by Lystent:
Originally posted by Angry Old Man:

A moderator can with a click ban the user and wipe out all the posts they made today with one click. So it takes seconds when reviewed.

Its much safer then automatically doing it and finding out you wiped out the posts from hundreds of users who didnt break any rules and falsely banned them.
While I agree that it helps they are making sure they do it clean, I'm also a fan of nipping things in the bud (the bud being the ones running the bots). Granted, they could already be working on bringing down this (what appears to be a) blackmail op of a sort that is, or has, hijacked various accounts.

Eh nipping it in the bud isn't really possible in this case. Since accounts are free, and the scam sites that do this operate in countries that don't have any treaties with the US steps to block it would do more harm then good.

Many of the accounts spamming are hijacked, so they can't go too crazy on the accounts as they are often eventually recovered. Its why free to play MMO's have spam and currency sellers. Its next to impossible to stop and you don't want to just ban based on certain words as you can accidently ban innocent people
Lystent 7 Oct @ 1:51pm 
Originally posted by Angry Old Man:
...Many of the accounts spamming are hijacked, ...
It looks to me like the posts are singling out ("shaming", to put it in another way) the accounts used to make the posts. If that turns out to be the actual purpose of the posts, then they could all be hijacked (which, AFAIK, are probably more valuable no matter the perspective).

Edit: also, the ban hammer isn't the only tool at their disposal; they own the servers and can change how steam works to better protect itself and its users.
Last edited by Lystent; 7 Oct @ 1:56pm
Originally posted by Angry Old Man:
Originally posted by Lystent:
While I agree that it helps they are making sure they do it clean, I'm also a fan of nipping things in the bud (the bud being the ones running the bots). Granted, they could already be working on bringing down this (what appears to be a) blackmail op of a sort that is, or has, hijacked various accounts.

Eh nipping it in the bud isn't really possible in this case. Since accounts are free, and the scam sites that do this operate in countries that don't have any treaties with the US steps to block it would do more harm then good.

Many of the accounts spamming are hijacked, so they can't go too crazy on the accounts as they are often eventually recovered. Its why free to play MMO's have spam and currency sellers. Its next to impossible to stop and you don't want to just ban based on certain words as you can accidently ban innocent people

Technically it is like when you block scam emails. You use your email provider to block it basically, but since many emails are free, they just keep coming. So all you can do is block them, or in the case of steam, report them.
Lystent 7 Oct @ 5:25pm 
Originally posted by RPG Gamer Man:
Originally posted by Angry Old Man:

Eh nipping it in the bud isn't really possible in this case. Since accounts are free, and the scam sites that do this operate in countries that don't have any treaties with the US steps to block it would do more harm then good.

Many of the accounts spamming are hijacked, so they can't go too crazy on the accounts as they are often eventually recovered. Its why free to play MMO's have spam and currency sellers. Its next to impossible to stop and you don't want to just ban based on certain words as you can accidently ban innocent people

Technically it is like when you block scam emails. You use your email provider to block it basically, but since many emails are free, they just keep coming. So all you can do is block them, or in the case of steam, report them.
AFAIK, not as much the case if this is just about openly "parading" hijacked accounts; assuming that is the case, then these accounts were not created on the fly, but were instead taken from a user who likely got careless with their credentials and/or local security. So more things to address AFAIK. Perhaps more than you can address than just blocking/banning/etc. the (suspected) victim accounts, or any accounts for that matter. (To think of it, even a well-distributed informational for steam market users might be helpful.)
Last edited by Lystent; 7 Oct @ 5:27pm
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