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pervfect69 18 Sep @ 3:27pm

Absolute cinema...

Man...this is awesome. I honestly do hope Gabe Newell has to go through his mods/admins & finds the hypocrites who ban/block people's accounts who do not break ToS but instead are blocked for having different views & not being afraid to express them. It would also be good to go over each & EVERY gaming discussion community & fire the power abusive mods who falsely flag comments as generic phobic just for wanting to ask questions like how to remove unwanted content from a game....especially when said game developers did NOT actually add the lgbtq+ tag to their games in order to help customers be fully informed before their purchase. That kind of lying by omission, where said unwanted content doesn't even show up until after the 2 hour mark is passed for game time is extremely vile & cowardly. People who have been banned for calling out devs for that kind of dishonest business practice should have the bans removed from their record & be given full refunds if it's found that the devs were dishonest by not properly tagging said content in their games. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg9C10oGqMQ We'll see how this goes I suppose.

And for anyone saying "Oh, this is off topic!!" No it's not because Steam/Valve is one of the companies summoned by Congress so this applies to Steam as well.

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Dendrobates Tinctorius 18 Sep @ 3:48pm

Originally posted by pervfect69:
Absolute cinema...

Man...this is awesome. I honestly do hope Gabe Newell has to go through his mods/admins & finds the hypocrites who ban/block people's accounts who do not break ToS but instead are blocked for having different views & not being afraid to express them. It would also be good to go over each & EVERY gaming discussion community & fire the power abusive mods who falsely flag comments as generic phobic just for wanting to ask questions like how to remove unwanted content from a game....especially when said game developers did NOT actually add the lgbtq+ tag to their games in order to help customers be fully informed before their purchase. That kind of lying by omission, where said unwanted content doesn't even show up until after the 2 hour mark is passed for game time is extremely vile & cowardly. People who have been banned for calling out devs for that kind of dishonest business practice should have the bans removed from their record & be given full refunds if it's found that the devs were dishonest by not properly tagging said content in their games. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg9C10oGqMQ We'll see how this goes I suppose.

And for anyone saying "Oh, this is off topic!!" No it's not because Steam/Valve is one of the companies summoned by Congress so this applies to Steam as well.

Everybody's got to make a slop video over the same story and everyone's gotta make a new thread after seeing video.

How exactly do you think silly questions about platforms "radicalizing" users, i.e. being permissive of offensive content, has anything to do with you getting banned (apparently for whining that a gay character exists)? Surely such a line of questioning tends toward platforms being more restrictive of speech.

datCookie 18 Sep @ 3:49pm

Nothing of what you said has anything to do with why Gabe has been invited to attend a hearing.

John Henry Eden 18 Sep @ 3:51pm

Originally posted by datCookie:
Nothing of what you said has anything to do with why Gabe has been invited to attend a hearing.

DUDE THE OBLIVIOUSNESS, LIKE COME ON, this is legit a steam moderator in disguise or a bot, always some generic chat gpt answer

pervfect69 18 Sep @ 3:56pm

Originally posted by Dendrobates Tinctorius:
Originally posted by pervfect69:
Absolute cinema...

Man...this is awesome. I honestly do hope Gabe Newell has to go through his mods/admins & finds the hypocrites who ban/block people's accounts who do not break ToS but instead are blocked for having different views & not being afraid to express them. It would also be good to go over each & EVERY gaming discussion community & fire the power abusive mods who falsely flag comments as generic phobic just for wanting to ask questions like how to remove unwanted content from a game....especially when said game developers did NOT actually add the lgbtq+ tag to their games in order to help customers be fully informed before their purchase. That kind of lying by omission, where said unwanted content doesn't even show up until after the 2 hour mark is passed for game time is extremely vile & cowardly. People who have been banned for calling out devs for that kind of dishonest business practice should have the bans removed from their record & be given full refunds if it's found that the devs were dishonest by not properly tagging said content in their games. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg9C10oGqMQ We'll see how this goes I suppose.

And for anyone saying "Oh, this is off topic!!" No it's not because Steam/Valve is one of the companies summoned by Congress so this applies to Steam as well.
Everybody's got to make a slop video over the same story and everyone's gotta make a new thread after seeing video.

How exactly do you think silly questions about platforms "radicalizing" users, i.e. being permissive of offensive content, has anything to do with you getting banned (apparently for whining that a gay character exists)? Surely such a line of questioning tends toward platforms being more restrictive of speech.

You clearly are in denial if you choose to ignore the cancellations from pro gay/trans groups towards those who don't want to support their lifestyle actually happened. Here let me enlighten you since you seem uninformed. https://www.cbc.ca/arts/gay-culture-has-grown-toxic-with-unchecked-privilege-it-s-time-for-us-to-reset-1.5639251 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4CtEpCcewE https://www.thefire.org/news/im-trans-trans-communitys-illiberalism-putting-our-rights-risk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS2tUYiBINI So yes, unlike you I am able to provide credible sources to my statements...it's no one's fault but your own if you choose not to believe them even when they're quoting/showing what someone has said.

pervfect69 18 Sep @ 3:57pm

Originally posted by datCookie:
Nothing of what you said has anything to do with why Gabe has been invited to attend a hearing.

It is indeed a part of it due to mods targeting users they deem "problematic" as well as again, wrongfully categorizing posts as (insert generic phobic) or hate speech when they are not.

datCookie 18 Sep @ 4:00pm

Originally posted by pervfect69:
Originally posted by datCookie:
Nothing of what you said has anything to do with why Gabe has been invited to attend a hearing.
It is indeed a part of it due to mods targeting users they deem "problematic" as well as again, wrongfully categorizing posts as (insert generic phobic) or hate speech when they are not.

The hearing is related to radicalisation of people in online spaces, leading to physical violence in the real world.

No moderator, Steam or dev, is going to be radicalising someone over moderator actions they disagree with.

Steam mods will not favour one view over another. If you're having this problem in a game hub, take it up with the devs there, because that's not on Steam to deal with

pervfect69 18 Sep @ 4:03pm

Originally posted by John Henry Eden:
Originally posted by datCookie:
Nothing of what you said has anything to do with why Gabe has been invited to attend a hearing.

DUDE THE OBLIVIOUSNESS, LIKE COME ON, this is legit a steam moderator in disguise or a bot, always some generic chat gpt answer

Agreed, if they can't see that "hate speech"/tumultuous discours can ALSO be caused by abusive moderators then it's very telling just who that guy really is. A lot of people know there are SOME mods on here (like Draconifours in the CyperPunk 2077 discussions) that falsely flag comments as homophobic just for expressing their desire to have Male V be able to Romance Judy instead of making her gay only. If CDPR were smart they would've made EVERY romance option work for BOTH version of V, limiting who can get with who removes player choice & restricts gameplay options. I know I was VERY pissed when my Male V couldn't get with Judy & I was equally disappointed when my female V wasn't able to get with Panam.

Dendrobates Tinctorius 18 Sep @ 4:04pm

Originally posted by pervfect69:
Originally posted by Dendrobates Tinctorius:
Everybody's got to make a slop video over the same story and everyone's gotta make a new thread after seeing video.

How exactly do you think silly questions about platforms "radicalizing" users, i.e. being permissive of offensive content, has anything to do with you getting banned (apparently for whining that a gay character exists)? Surely such a line of questioning tends toward platforms being more restrictive of speech.
You clearly are in denial if you choose to ignore the cancellations from pro gay/trans groups towards those who don't want to support their lifestyle actually happened. Here let me enlighten you since you seem uninformed. https://www.cbc.ca/arts/gay-culture-has-grown-toxic-with-unchecked-privilege-it-s-time-for-us-to-reset-1.5639251 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4CtEpCcewE https://www.thefire.org/news/im-trans-trans-communitys-illiberalism-putting-our-rights-risk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS2tUYiBINI So yes, unlike you I am able to provide credible sources to my statements...it's no one's fault but your own if you choose not to believe them even when they're quoting/showing what someone has said.

What statements are you ctrl+c&ctrl+ving urls to defend?

I asked why you think the story about cracking down on radicalization, which increases cancellations, would somehow stop you getting cancelled. To put it more simply, why do you think a non-negative number going up means it's getting smaller?

also wtf does "the dark truth of forced feminism in video games" have to do with any of this who has time to watch this trash

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pervfect69 18 Sep @ 4:05pm

Originally posted by datCookie:
Originally posted by pervfect69:
It is indeed a part of it due to mods targeting users they deem "problematic" as well as again, wrongfully categorizing posts as (insert generic phobic) or hate speech when they are not.

The hearing is related to radicalisation of people in online spaces, leading to physical violence in the real world.

No moderator, Steam or dev, is going to be radicalising someone over moderator actions they disagree with.

Steam mods will not favour one view over another. If you're having this problem in a game hub, take it up with the devs there, because that's not on Steam to deal with

And you some how think Steam moderators & administrators are immune to that? They are NOT above reproach & the act of wrongfully banning people for FALSELY flagged "phobic" comments can indeed cause problems for the community. Stop lying to yourself already.

datCookie 18 Sep @ 4:08pm

Originally posted by pervfect69:
Originally posted by datCookie:

The hearing is related to radicalisation of people in online spaces, leading to physical violence in the real world.

No moderator, Steam or dev, is going to be radicalising someone over moderator actions they disagree with.

Steam mods will not favour one view over another. If you're having this problem in a game hub, take it up with the devs there, because that's not on Steam to deal with
And you some how think Steam moderators & administrators are immune to that? They are NOT above reproach & the act of wrongfully banning people for FALSELY flagged "phobic" comments can indeed cause problems for the community. Stop lying to yourself already.

You may not agree with them, that doesnt mean they are wrong. I dont know about your case specifically, but I can guarantee you that moderator action isn't radicalising anyone to go out and kill people for whatever reason.

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pervfect69 18 Sep @ 4:09pm

Originally posted by Dendrobates Tinctorius:
Originally posted by pervfect69:
You clearly are in denial if you choose to ignore the cancellations from pro gay/trans groups towards those who don't want to support their lifestyle actually happened. Here let me enlighten you since you seem uninformed. https://www.cbc.ca/arts/gay-culture-has-grown-toxic-with-unchecked-privilege-it-s-time-for-us-to-reset-1.5639251 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4CtEpCcewE https://www.thefire.org/news/im-trans-trans-communitys-illiberalism-putting-our-rights-risk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS2tUYiBINI So yes, unlike you I am able to provide credible sources to my statements...it's no one's fault but your own if you choose not to believe them even when they're quoting/showing what someone has said.
What statements are you ctrl+c&ctrl+ving urls to defend?

I asked why you think the story about cracking down on radicalization, which increases cancellations, would somehow stop you getting cancelled. To put it more simply, why do you think a non-negative number going up means it's getting smaller?

also wtf does "the dark truth of forced feminism in video games" have to do with any of this who has time to watch this trash

Watch the videos/read the articles THEN you can talk to me. I don't bother acknowledging people who don't do their own homework first. People are not owning up to their calls of violence for people they don't agree with...if you somehow think that cracking down on them will increase cancel culture then you're beyond delusional. The videos & news articles I posted answer your questions, do your freaking homework & read/watch them already. It is the very same people that want cancel culture/control over a specific political narrative that have become some of the mods right here on Steam. Again, it's no one's fault BUT YOUR OWN if you choose to ignore that fact.

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Dendrobates Tinctorius 18 Sep @ 4:15pm

Originally posted by pervfect69:
Originally posted by Dendrobates Tinctorius:
What statements are you ctrl+c&ctrl+ving urls to defend?

I asked why you think the story about cracking down on radicalization, which increases cancellations, would somehow stop you getting cancelled. To put it more simply, why do you think a non-negative number going up means it's getting smaller?

also wtf does "the dark truth of forced feminism in video games" have to do with any of this who has time to watch this trash
Watch the videos/read the articles THEN you can talk to me. I don't bother acknowledging people who don't do their own homework first. People are not owning up to their calls of violence for people they don't agree with...if you somehow think that cracking down on them will increase cancel culture then you're beyond delusional. The videos & news articles I posted answer your questions, do your freaking homework & read/watch them already. It is the very same people that want cancel culture/control over a specific political narrative that have become some of the mods right here on Steam. Again, it's no one's fault BUT YOUR OWN if you choose to ignore that fact.

i did twice as much homework as you. your turn, do homework do homework, also answer my questions in your own words thereby demonstrating the basic human ability to reason

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Mad Scientist 18 Sep @ 4:27pm

Originally posted by John Henry Eden:
Originally posted by datCookie:
Nothing of what you said has anything to do with why Gabe has been invited to attend a hearing.

DUDE THE OBLIVIOUSNESS, LIKE COME ON, this is legit a steam moderator in disguise or a bot, always some generic chat gpt answer

Neither. Just a regular user.

Originally posted by pervfect69:

And for anyone saying "Oh, this is off topic!!" No it's not because Steam/Valve is one of the companies summoned by Congress so this applies to Steam as well.

We already have a thread for this;
https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/discussions/forum/0/597412189643584238/

Valve already takes appropriate action against people inciting assassination and murder.

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pervfect69 18 Sep @ 4:29pm

Originally posted by Dendrobates Tinctorius:
Originally posted by pervfect69:
Watch the videos/read the articles THEN you can talk to me. I don't bother acknowledging people who don't do their own homework first. People are not owning up to their calls of violence for people they don't agree with...if you somehow think that cracking down on them will increase cancel culture then you're beyond delusional. The videos & news articles I posted answer your questions, do your freaking homework & read/watch them already. It is the very same people that want cancel culture/control over a specific political narrative that have become some of the mods right here on Steam. Again, it's no one's fault BUT YOUR OWN if you choose to ignore that fact.
i did twice as much homework as you. your turn, do homework do homework, also answer my questions in your own words thereby demonstrating the basic human ability to reason

I don't have to because your own dishonesty/delusions make it so that you won't be satisfied no matter what I say & you'll just push the goal post further because your only purpose here is to spread discourse as the bad faith actor you are. I'm not as stupid as you're hoping I am....sorry. You've yet to post ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that defends your line of thinking & until you do no one owes you anything. You want respect from others?...then you'd damn well better give respect first. You can't use the "Because I said so" logic online...that doesn't work. Give linked proof for your point of view or get lost.

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Soren 18 Sep @ 4:30pm

Originally posted by pervfect69:
Originally posted by datCookie:
Nothing of what you said has anything to do with why Gabe has been invited to attend a hearing.
It is indeed a part of it due to mods targeting users they deem "problematic" as well as again, wrongfully categorizing posts as (insert generic phobic) or hate speech when they are not.

Hmm, Valve is being called on because the Charlie Kirk shooter made a reference to Hell Divers 2. And these politicians found out the game is sold on Steam. Simple as that.

Originally posted by pervfect69:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS2tUYiBINI

You do realise that the organisations behind this were entirely right wing... right? Project 2025 was related to the organisation, along with many right wing religious groups. That org was founded by a right wing conservative think tank, and an anti-abortion christian baptist.

Yes, they're all rallying behind an organisation that claimed to be feminist. But that's just because they thought calling themselves "feminist" would be a huge shield. Ironically they don't know the internet cares not for that kind of idpol shield.

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