Former volunteer mods have no ties to current mods, because the team is outsourced to a 3rd party company and they aren't active participants in the forums.

Originally posted by The Wang:

Might sound like a conspiracy

.... yes...

Well i know of one former moderator that seems to have connections with a moderator of a game hub i was banned from, if only because he publically stated a matter that were only between myself and that hub moderator thru private messaging years ago.

He couldn't have known unless he was involved in that back and forth thru private messaging.

When i pointed that matter out to him here, in how he could have known that, i got banned.

And so, yes, at least in my experience these moderators do share our private comments and histories with others.

And it could be in game they may be friends, or other outlets.

But we have to be careful to know our information is not safe with a moderator of any kind. After all, they are not our lawyers, or are not bound by any law not to give away or circumstances to others.

What is scary to me, are generally customer services as it relates to our accounts.

It is also scary that they may he power of friends and connections to have us banned.

I as well got banned on an account i haven't used in many months. Which is to say, whatever they got me for had to go back at least six months.

If it's in a game hub, can't say, if it's the ordinary forums, they're outsourced moderators. The chances of this being coincidence seems far more likely than an ex-mod getting into contact with unnamed third-party group of people.

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Well i know of one former moderator that seems to have connections with a moderator of a game hub i was banned from, if only because he publically stated a matter that were only between myself and that hub moderator thru private messaging years ago.

He couldn't have known unless he was involved in that back and forth thru private messaging.

When i pointed that matter out to him here, in how he could have known that, i got banned.

And so, yes, at least in my experience these moderators do share our private comments and histories with others.

And it could be in game they may be friends, or other outlets.

But we have to be careful to know our information is not safe with a moderator of any kind. After all, they are not our lawyers, or are not bound by any law not to give away or circumstances to others.

What is scary to me, are generally customer services as it relates to our accounts.

It is also scary that they may he power of friends and connections to have us banned.

I as well got banned on an account i haven't used in many months. Which is to say, whatever they got me for had to go back at least six months.

Actually...the ATS ban for ban evasion didn't have any ties to former moderation, a forum regular reported the account to ATS staff/support. Source: I know which regular did it.

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Well i know of one former moderator that seems to have connections with a moderator of a game hub i was banned from, if only because he publically stated a matter that were only between myself and that hub moderator thru private messaging years ago.

He couldn't have known unless he was involved in that back and forth thru private messaging.

When i pointed that matter out to him here, in how he could have known that, i got banned.

And so, yes, at least in my experience these moderators do share our private comments and histories with others.

And it could be in game they may be friends, or other outlets.

But we have to be careful to know our information is not safe with a moderator of any kind. After all, they are not our lawyers, or are not bound by any law not to give away or circumstances to others.

What is scary to me, are generally customer services as it relates to our accounts.

It is also scary that they may he power of friends and connections to have us banned.

I as well got banned on an account i haven't used in many months. Which is to say, whatever they got me for had to go back at least six months.

... mmyeah...

Originally posted by The Wang:

Might sound like a conspiracy

Originally posted by Alexander HAMilton:

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Well i know of one former moderator that seems to have connections with a moderator of a game hub i was banned from, if only because he publically stated a matter that were only between myself and that hub moderator thru private messaging years ago.

He couldn't have known unless he was involved in that back and forth thru private messaging.

When i pointed that matter out to him here, in how he could have known that, i got banned.

And so, yes, at least in my experience these moderators do share our private comments and histories with others.

And it could be in game they may be friends, or other outlets.

But we have to be careful to know our information is not safe with a moderator of any kind. After all, they are not our lawyers, or are not bound by any law not to give away or circumstances to others.

What is scary to me, are generally customer services as it relates to our accounts.

It is also scary that they may he power of friends and connections to have us banned.

I as well got banned on an account i haven't used in many months. Which is to say, whatever they got me for had to go back at least six months.

Actually...the ATS ban for ban evasion didn't have any ties to former moderation, a forum regular reported the account to ATS staff/support. Source: I know which regular did it.

I'm not speaking of any ban evasions. I'm speaking about a back and forth i had with moderator, who spammed my private account, and i let him have it, which caused the ban.

In that back and forth, matters were discussed, that ended up here, by a former moderator.

That gave it away, they had a relationship that apparently thru being friends, or what not ended up public. It wasn't the worst thing, but just to say, these matters with game hub moderators do make it out of a private matter.

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

I'm not speaking of any ban evasions. I'm speaking about a back and forth i had with moderator, who spammed my private account, and i let him have it, which caused the ban.

In that back and forth, matters were discussed, that ended up here, by a former moderator.

That gave it away, they had a relationship that apparently thru being friends, or what not ended up public. It wasn't the worst thing, but just to say, these matters with game hub moderators do make it out of a private matter.

Whatever you say, bud. Plenty of regulars here know your history and why you've earned those 60+ bans you have.

Also, quick tip: your account isn't "tainted" when you get bans, because at the end of the day, even a community ban won't stop you from buying and playing games, which is the primary function of this platform. It also won't stop you seeking support for whatever reason you need it.

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Originally posted by Alexander HAMilton:

Actually...the ATS ban for ban evasion didn't have any ties to former moderation, a forum regular reported the account to ATS staff/support. Source: I know which regular did it.

I'm not speaking of any ban evasions. I'm speaking about a back and forth i had with moderator, who spammed my private account, and i let him have it, which caused the ban.

In that back and forth, matters were discussed, that ended up here, by a former moderator.

That gave it away, they had a relationship that apparently thru being friends, or what not ended up public. It wasn't the worst thing, but just to say, these matters with game hub moderators do make it out of a private matter.

You've spoken about the incident in detail multiple times over the years, details changed a little each time. But it's not difficult to see they likely remembered a time you brought it up.

Originally the claim was the moderator was under age and didn't even speak english, now it's bickering back and forth.

Regardless to say, you leave a LOT of detail available in posts, and people have long memories. So it's likely they just remembered a time you went into detail, as usual, than having any actual ties to the hub's moderation.

There's an entire website dedicated to curating the story changes, false claims, and conspiracies, after all.

Either way, devs have freedom to remove individuals freely from their game hubs. Don't like it, don't use the hub.

Originally posted by datCookie:

Originally posted by Alexander HAMilton:

There's an entire website dedicated to curating the story changes, false claims, and conspiracies, after all.

Link?

I'll need to ask Hunter for it. Apparently his team's been collecting screenshots for known instigators and linking alt accounts together with help from regulars for a couple years now.

Originally posted by datCookie:

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

I'm not speaking of any ban evasions. I'm speaking about a back and forth i had with moderator, who spammed my private account, and i let him have it, which caused the ban.

In that back and forth, matters were discussed, that ended up here, by a former moderator.

That gave it away, they had a relationship that apparently thru being friends, or what not ended up public. It wasn't the worst thing, but just to say, these matters with game hub moderators do make it out of a private matter.

Whatever you say, bud. Plenty of regulars here know your history and why you've earned those 60+ bans you have.

Also, quick tip: your account isn't "tainted" when you get bans, because at the end of the day, even a community ban won't stop you from buying and playing games, which is the primary function of this platform. It also won't stop you seeking support for whatever reason you need it.

They still don't know the reason i was banned from the game hub. They "say" they know. They passed misinformation as being fact, but the reason for the ban, in red letters was "You're Done".

That was the literal reason. And the reason i was "done" was due to the back and forth he and i had, he deserved it, and if i did, so did i.

As far as Steam was concerned, when i pointed out the fact the guy spammed me, and then cited the reason, they stated "We wish moderation would not do that, and we give them a guide" and they furnished me with a link as to the rules they set forth for moderators.

When i told them "well, what about the harassment to my account being spammed", they said they'd refer the matter to another department.

So, that was there. And the back and forth with that moderator, ended up in the hands of a user here, who claims he was a former moderator with a badge.

Here on the Official Discussions, there is nobody including you that can say they have ever cited me using profanities, obcsenites, pictures, namecalling, or anything that can be deemed any serious conduct of any kind.

I just don't.

If that is rationale for more than 60 bans, most of which overturned, i think that may go to the OPs point in who exactly is running matters here.

Cheers

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

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Here on the Official Discussions, there is nobody including you that can say they have ever cited me using profanities, obcsenites, pictures, namecalling, or anything that can be deemed any serious conduct of any kind.

Factually untrue, having had it done against me personally in these very forums in the past, to which I reported and the results adding to the 60+ proclaimed bans. But go on.

Originally posted by Alexander HAMilton:

Originally posted by datCookie:

Link?

I'll need to ask Hunter for it. Apparently his team's been collecting screenshots for known instigators and linking alt accounts together with help from regulars for a couple years now.

Hope to see it soon