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Low Standards 1 Dec @ 7:21am
Glad Steam was forced to stop lying
And now has to say up-front that games are leased not owned. I think this is good for the industry and a first step toward this digital nightmare.
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Yzal 1 Dec @ 7:24am 
People not reading the SSA before clicking accept doesn't mean Valve was lying, it only means stupid people do stupid things.
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Low Standards 1 Dec @ 7:26am 
Originally posted by Yzal:
People not reading the SSA before clicking accept doesn't mean Valve was lying, it only means stupid people do stupid things.

Stupid things like defending Steam?
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Yzal 1 Dec @ 7:28am 
Originally posted by Low Standards:
Originally posted by Yzal:
People not reading the SSA before clicking accept doesn't mean Valve was lying, it only means stupid people do stupid things.

Stupid things like defending Steam?
No, stupid things like signing a contract without reading it and then complaining about something that was written on it since the beginning.
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The nameless Gamer 1 Dec @ 7:28am 
Oh no, I can play any game I paid for from my library as long as I can have disc space and I can pick from a catalog of almost 100.000 available titles. The horror! By the way, I was being sarcastic.
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Thermal Lance 1 Dec @ 7:28am 
I knew day 1 what I was buying and I was a friggin kid back then. XD
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Low Standards 1 Dec @ 7:29am 
Originally posted by Yzal:
Originally posted by Low Standards:

Stupid things like defending Steam?
No, stupid things like signing a contract without reading it and then complaining about something that was written on it since the beginning.

A contract to buy a game doesn't make sense.
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Low Standards 1 Dec @ 7:29am 
Originally posted by Thermal Lance:
I knew day 1 what I was buying and I was a friggin kid back then. XD

LOL! You didn't buy anything.
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Thermal Lance 1 Dec @ 7:31am 
Originally posted by Low Standards:
Originally posted by Thermal Lance:
I knew day 1 what I was buying and I was a friggin kid back then. XD

LOL! You didn't buy anything.
I bought licenses hotshot.
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The nameless Gamer 1 Dec @ 7:32am 
Originally posted by Low Standards:
Originally posted by Thermal Lance:
I knew day 1 what I was buying and I was a friggin kid back then. XD

LOL! You didn't buy anything.

Licenses to use a piece of software were always sold. Only now, they aren't tangible. Nothing else changed.
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Low Standards 1 Dec @ 7:33am 
Originally posted by Thermal Lance:
Originally posted by Low Standards:

LOL! You didn't buy anything.
I bought licenses hotshot.

A license to something you don't own nor have the right to play or preserve now and any time in the future. Great purchase!
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Wolf Knight 1 Dec @ 7:33am 
Originally posted by Low Standards:
Originally posted by Yzal:
No, stupid things like signing a contract without reading it and then complaining about something that was written on it since the beginning.

A contract to buy a game doesn't make sense.
it makes as much sense as buying a ticket to watch a movie, or buying a ticket to a concert, sporting event, etc.

you have only bought licenses for computer games even when they were on disc. the difference now is that the license agreement can be enforced more easily.
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Low Standards 1 Dec @ 7:35am 
Originally posted by The nameless Gamer:
Originally posted by Low Standards:

LOL! You didn't buy anything.

Licenses to use a piece of software were always sold. Only now, they aren't tangible. Nothing else changed.

So that makes it right? Also the physical copy prevented anyone from taking what you own away. The license was more for copying than owning.
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Low Standards 1 Dec @ 7:36am 
Originally posted by Wolf Knight:
Originally posted by Low Standards:

A contract to buy a game doesn't make sense.
it makes as much sense as buying a ticket to watch a movie, or buying a ticket to a concert, sporting event, etc.

you have only bought licenses for computer games even when they were on disc. the difference now is that the license agreement can be enforced more easily.

Exactly. That is the problem and buying a product isn't going to the movies. LOL!
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Thermal Lance 1 Dec @ 7:36am 
Originally posted by Low Standards:
Originally posted by Thermal Lance:
I bought licenses hotshot.

A license to something you don't own nor have the right to play or preserve now and any time in the future. Great purchase!
As long as Steam stays afloat. Which seems to be the case for the forseeable future. I have nothing to be afraid of.

But, I sure won't start to whine 19 years down the line when I knew day 1 what I was purchasing on the platform.

That would just be moronic.
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Wolf Knight 1 Dec @ 7:37am 
Originally posted by Low Standards:
Originally posted by The nameless Gamer:

Licenses to use a piece of software were always sold. Only now, they aren't tangible. Nothing else changed.

So that makes it right? Also the physical copy prevented anyone from taking what you own away. The license was more for copying than owning.
what you want the license to mean does not matter. the license covered who can USE the product and what your options are with it. you NEVER owned it
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