When you buy keys from dodgy sites that is the risk you are taking, buy your games from legit sites, those legit sites will give you back your money if a key has been unrightfully revoked. Personally, never heard about unrightfully revoked keys from a legit reseller

Can you provide us with a list of games/developers this happened with?

Originally posted by Rockon:

When you buy keys from dodgy sites that is the risk you are taking, buy your games from legit sites, and those sites will give you back your money if a key has been unrightfully revoked (Personally never heard that ever happend)

I'm not talking about dodgy sites, I'm talking about bundle sites like IndieGala, Groupess, Bundle Stars Etc, all are legitimate resellers who have distribution agreements with the developer and/or publisher. Yet developers are allowed to revoke said keys at will, some for ridiculous reasons.

Originally posted by MancSoulja:

I'm not talking about dodgy sites, I'm talking about bundle sites like IndieGala, Groupess, Bundle Stars Etc, all are legitimate resellers who have distribution agreements with the developer and/or publisher. Yet developers are allowed to revoke said keys at will, some for ridiculous reasons.

Then take it with those sites, if they sold something they did not have the rights to sell, they need to give you back your money.

It never happened to me as well and I buy on Humble, Greenman, via publishers directly, Indiegala, Bundlestars etc etc so I'm curious if it is something you heard somewhere or if it really happens to you. In that case what Rockon said.

Originally posted by Cablenexus:

It never happened to me as well and I buy on Humble, Greenman, via publishers directly, Indiegala, Bundlestars etc etc so I'm curious if it is something you heard somewhere or if it really happens to you. In that case what Rockon said.

I've too bought from those sites, never had a single game revoked.

I'm wondering if it is keys/bundles mass bought and resold on sketchy sites, if that is the case, I see why they revoke the keys, as they are not meant to be resold by anyone.

Originally posted by Cablenexus:

Can you provide us with a list of games/developers this happened with?

Obviously I can't name them all but :

Ultimate Arena
Days Under Custody
Axyos

Are all games from Indie Gala bundles which have been revoked recently and today I had my copy of Undeads revoked which I bought from a Groupees build a greenlight bundle last year.

http://prnt.sc/cio3ci

As you can see from this thread, I'm not the only person who has had their copy of Undeads revoked without reason - http://gtm.steamproxy.vip/app/377980/discussions/0/343786746000107754/?tscn=1474026708

Originally posted by MancSoulja:

Originally posted by Cablenexus:

Can you provide us with a list of games/developers this happened with?

Obviously I can't name them all but :

Ultimate Arena
Days Under Custody
Axyos

are all games from Indie Gala bundle which have been revoked recently and today I had my copy of Undeads revoked which I bought from a Groupees buld a greenlight bundle last year.

http://prnt.sc/cio3ci

As you can see from this thread, I'm not the only person who has had their copy of Undeads revoked without reason - http://gtm.steamproxy.vip/app/377980/discussions/0/343786746000107754/?tscn=1474026708

Then go and talk to the bundlesites, they are the ones who need to reimburse you your loss, for a legit bought game, and take legal action against the developer/publisher, if they did something fraudulently.

Originally posted by Rockon:

Originally posted by MancSoulja:

Obviously I can't name them all but :

Ultimate Arena
Days Under Custody
Axyos

are all games from Indie Gala bundle which have been revoked recently and today I had my copy of Undeads revoked which I bought from a Groupees buld a greenlight bundle last year.

http://prnt.sc/cio3ci

As you can see from this thread, I'm not the only person who has had their copy of Undeads revoked without reason - http://gtm.steamproxy.vip/app/377980/discussions/0/343786746000107754/?tscn=1474026708

Then go and talk to the bundlesites, they are the ones who need to reimburse you your loss, fir a legit bought game.

No, not at all, the bundle site didn't revoke my game, they don't even have the ability, they have fulfilled their contract with me, it's the developer who has stolen something which I purchased,

When you purchase something, then they take that item back, it's called a scam, If I was to scam another member my account would be limited, why are developers an exception to the rule?

Originally posted by MancSoulja:

Originally posted by Rockon:

Then go and talk to the bundlesites, they are the ones who need to reimburse you your loss, fir a legit bought game.

No, not at all, the bundle site didn't revoke my game, they don't even have the ability, they have fulfilled their contract with me, it's the developer who has stolen something which I purchased,

When you purchase something, then they take that item back, it's called a scam, If I was to scam another member my account would be limited, why are developers an exception to the rule?

It's still them who need to sort it out with the developer/publisher.

Originally posted by Rockon:

Originally posted by MancSoulja:

No, not at all, the bundle site didn't revoke my game, they don't even have the ability, they have fulfilled their contract with me, it's the developer who has stolen something which I purchased,

When you purchase something, then they take that item back, it's called a scam, If I was to scam another member my account would be limited, why are developers an exception to the rule?

It's still them who need to sort it out with the developer/publisher.

I understand all this, my point is that developers should not be allowed to revoke keys at will, they are no more trustwothy than anyone else, when a developer contacts Valve and asks for a batch of keys to be revoked, they should be required to provide evidence of whatever illegalities they claim have taken place.

Post in the specific game forum (I saw you did already).

Do what Rockon said and send mail to the specific reseller.

Send mail to support from the specific developer/publisher.

Give them a few days time, maybe there was just something going wrong with a badge of keys.

Send mail to Steam ticket support if nobody helps you the other ways mentioned and don't take your loss.

Last but not least, but that is only speculation! (Mortar/Undead for example is the game mentioned in the list of 400 most influenced games by the new review score. 77% positive by giveaway keys, 33% positive by Steam users.) it may have something to do with relationship between Steam and some developers ended since a few days ago they introduced the new review system. But again that is ONLY speculation if you did not try all other options mentioned.

Would like to know btw from a moderator if revoking keys can happen because of relationship between Steam and developer ended?

MancSoulja,

I'd recommend purchasing Steam related games directly through Steam's store page. However, with that being said, I do personally understand third-party retailers might have games on sell cheaper than the store, and developers/publishers can work directly with them to sell their products.

When a developer/publisher on Steam requests a batch of actual CD keys to be generated, and once approved, there's specific guidelines in place for banning CD keys that were generated. One being is that there's a limitation to 200 batch keys per request, and secondly, banning batches typically are in relation to fraudulent keys distributed. This is in no relation to what might of happened to your copy, but it's one possibility.

With that being said, there's no limitations in regards to what generated CD key can be used for (promotions, retailers, other areas).

I'd recommend discussing this further with the retailer you purchased your CD key from, and the developer/publisher of the game. Developers/publishers *are* technically able to ban batches of 200 at a time of keys, and there's a specific note that outlines about being careful of doing this due to the possibility of revoking legitimate users, but that's to the developers/publishers discretion.

Originally posted by MancSoulja:

I'm not talking about dodgy sites, I'm talking about bundle sites like IndieGala, Groupess, Bundle Stars Etc, all are legitimate resellers who have distribution agreements with the developer and/or publisher. Yet developers are allowed to revoke said keys at will, some for ridiculous reasons.

I have never heard of these sites having keys revoked, especialy if the key were provided by the developers. I have only heard of the being revoked on grey market sites that have obtained the keys from unknown sources.

Looking at how few have an issue, and thre are still many that have their game from the bundle, it isn't the developer revoking the keys.

Originally posted by Spawn of Totoro:

Originally posted by MancSoulja:

I'm not talking about dodgy sites, I'm talking about bundle sites like IndieGala, Groupess, Bundle Stars Etc, all are legitimate resellers who have distribution agreements with the developer and/or publisher. Yet developers are allowed to revoke said keys at will, some for ridiculous reasons.

I have never heard of these sites having keys revoked, especialy if the key were provided by the developers. I have only heard of the being revoked on grey market sites that have obtained the keys from unknown sources.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GameDealsMeta/comments/4byl1k/axyos_keys_from_indie_gala_have_been_revoked/

https://www.reddit.com/r/GameDealsMeta/comments/4besak/indie_gala_days_under_custody_revoked/

Learn something new every day huh