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John Umbrella 6 Jan @ 1:23am
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im so tried of the unbalanced combat in this game....
your stamina system is just atrocious Iron gate. you really just made a half assed system and called it perfect. this garbage system only hinders the players when nothing else in this game has to put up with this or proper attack frames. wolves. rock spamming trents.

literally everything in this game does this crappy attack spam in some form or a run around that shows there is a problem with your players ability to attack with weapons that are either fast or so slow you cant use it without just dark souls parrying. hell this whole parry system makes shields a joke as weirdly wolves can just break your banded shield guard. and you made both cold AND wet reduce stamina gen wile having no temp system to regulate it so its just a debuff that triggers and a very simple and poor one one at that. im tired of this repetitive progression you so lazily cobbled together.

why the hell did you make golems weak to only pickax based pierce damage but not form any other? you think your cute when you already have a dogwater set of weapons because of your crappy animation and attack speeds from these weapons like the axe being SLOWER THAN CLUBS and you want me to use a pickax on a golem??? this was somthing i had pointed out years ago in this games development but i guess logic is out the window since wolves can bite you through a shield and require you to just parry so you dont even need shields when you get the timing down.
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Suzaku 6 Jan @ 1:27am 
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Your stagger limit while blocking is based on your max health, so improve that and wolves aren't a threat unless they're 2-star. Or just stab them in the face with a spear first and they get stunned, then finish with a second strike.

Golems are best handled with a mace. Using a pickaxe is more of a meme than anything.

Use the options available to you instead of complaining to the devs. You'll be a better gamer, a better viking, and a better person in the end.
Last edited by Suzaku; 6 Jan @ 1:28am
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John Umbrella 6 Jan @ 1:32am 
Originally posted by Suzaku:
Your stagger limit while blocking is based on your max health, so improve that and wolves aren't a threat unless they're 2-star. Or just stab them in the face with a spear first and they get stunned, then finish with a second strike.

Golems are best handled with a mace. Using a pickaxe is more of a meme than anything.

Use the options available to you instead of complaining to the devs. You'll be a better gamer, a better viking, and a better person in the end.
they do NOT stagger on first hit. that is a absolute lie. id love to learn if the game didnt hide stuff like that info from me but who am i kidding the devs dont want you to learn how to play easily so its "harder". buddy dont tell me not to complain to the devs when not only did they take forever to get any serious content out. and made a boardgame rather than more stuff for this game. didnt they state they are gonna be done in 3 years or so form a damn dev log they keep posting over content or things like QOl updates? a better viking? its 2024 there are no real vikings anymore. better person? whatever dude
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Suzaku 6 Jan @ 1:37am 
If you do enough damage, yes, it does stagger on first hit. An upgraded ancient bark spear or fang spear gets the job done. I do it all the time. If you're good with a bow, the same thing happens.

And "the devs don't want you to learn"? Get real. YOU don't want to learn. You learn by playing the game, not by having the devs spoonfeed you every piece of info and coddle you.

You just want to whine. But why do I even bother? You're just another private profile, filling the forums with your toxic ignorant rants.
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Mineralwasser 6 Jan @ 1:41am 
If you ignore gameplay mechanics that arent that hard to master it becomes a you problem. (parry, positioning and brewing meads for stamina and cold resistance)
If you ignore the fact that there a different tools for different situations it becomes a you problem. (as Suzaku said. Mace good against Golem. Throwing spear at wolf makes wolf stop.)
Edit: Nobody is forcing you to fight wet and cold oor go out at night.
If it is to hard for you turn down the difficulty. There is a chance you can ignore mechanics for a while longer.
Please have some selfreflection!
Last edited by Mineralwasser; 6 Jan @ 1:46am
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John Umbrella 6 Jan @ 1:52am 
Originally posted by Mineralwasser:
If you ignore gameplay mechanics that arent that hard to master it becomes a you problem. (parry, positioning and brewing meads for stamina and cold resistance)
If you ignore the fact that there a different tools for different situations it becomes a you problem. (as Suzaku said. Mace good against Golem. Throwing spear at wolf makes wolf stop.)
Edit: Nobody is forcing you to fight wet and cold oor go out at night.
If it is to hard for you turn down the difficulty. There is a chance you can ignore mechanics for a while longer.
Please have some selfreflection!
people like you just reply to posts to start stuff i swear. throwing spear? buddy im using the long spear and neither will randomly. i tried it and i got staggred so yea no it dont work like you try to claim. i know the mechanics and im saying they are not that good. "if its too hard" jsut say skill issue and move along dude. jsut because someone else thinks differently than you does not mean they are inherently wrong. you wanna know whats funny. you need to touch grass
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Psojed 6 Jan @ 2:19am 
Originally posted by Zathra:
they do NOT stagger on first hit. that is a absolute lie.
Couldn't find spear, found you an iron atgeir instead

https://youtu.be/DwW563ZVkXE?t=15
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Psojed 6 Jan @ 2:52am 
Originally posted by Zathra:
i know the mechanics
Bold of you to assume that after you died to a simple Wolf.

Originally posted by Zathra:
your stamina system is just atrocious
That's an opinion.

Originally posted by Zathra:
literally everything in this game does this crappy attack spam in some form
That's not true.
Boars, Greydwarves, Drakes, Stone Golems, Fulings, Seekers, Morgen. There's literally tons of examples proving you wrong.

Originally posted by Zathra:
hell this whole parry system makes shields a joke as weirdly wolves can just break your banded shield guard.
That's not true.
Here's Banded shield used to Parry a Lox. https://youtu.be/noUISE36h4M?t=152
You know the mechanics, so you know Lox is even stronger than Wolf.

Originally posted by Zathra:
and you made both cold AND wet reduce stamina gen wile having no temp system to regulate it
That's not true.
Fire sources exists. Mead exists. Cloak exists.

Originally posted by Zathra:
golems weak to only pickax based pierce damage
That's also not true.
You read wiki or some comments about stone golesm and you ASSUMED you must use a pickaxe. You've been jebaited and memed, hard. Don't be a sheep. Crosscheck your information. You have tons of gameplay videos of Valheim on youtube if you're too lazy to test it yourself.

I kill golems with spears all the time:

https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3401382474

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You resorted to namecalling the game, namecalling the dev, and namecalling the helpful people who replied in this thread. I wonder who's the toxic person here...

Try to stop assuming and projecting at others Zathra.
Leave your emotional baggage outside. Think hard about what is the actual problem you have with the game or its mechanics. Then find arguments that support your claim, arguments based in facts, not emotions, and then we can talk about it.
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Tuxedo 6 Jan @ 2:54am 
Originally posted by Psojed:
Couldn't find spear, found you an iron atgeir instead
Spears stagger them too, and with my current Spear level of 67 and my Level 4
Fang Spear (which is still very very cheap to craft and upgrade)
i just wrecking them for their delicious meat.
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Psojed 6 Jan @ 2:59am 
Originally posted by Tuxedo:
Spears stagger them too, and with my current Spear level of 67 and my Level 4
Fang Spear (which is still very very cheap to craft and upgrade)
i just wrecking them for their delicious meat.
Yes I know my man. I'm a spear user myself :) I just didn't find a spear vs. wolf video in the 1 minute I was willing to put into searching for youtube videos for OP, so I gave him an Atgeir video.
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Oakshield 6 Jan @ 3:39am 
Originally posted by Zathra:
your stamina system is just atrocious Iron gate. you really just made a half assed system and called it perfect. this garbage system only hinders the players when nothing else in this game has to put up with this or proper attack frames. wolves. rock spamming trents.

literally everything in this game does this crappy attack spam in some form or a run around that shows there is a problem with your players ability to attack with weapons that are either fast or so slow you cant use it without just dark souls parrying. hell this whole parry system makes shields a joke as weirdly wolves can just break your banded shield guard. and you made both cold AND wet reduce stamina gen wile having no temp system to regulate it so its just a debuff that triggers and a very simple and poor one one at that. im tired of this repetitive progression you so lazily cobbled together.

why the hell did you make golems weak to only pickax based pierce damage but not form any other? you think your cute when you already have a dogwater set of weapons because of your crappy animation and attack speeds from these weapons like the axe being SLOWER THAN CLUBS and you want me to use a pickax on a golem??? this was somthing i had pointed out years ago in this games development but i guess logic is out the window since wolves can bite you through a shield and require you to just parry so you dont even need shields when you get the timing down.


Just curious:

1) What kind of armor are you wearing?
2) Which kinds of food are you using?
3) Which kind of weapons are you using?
4) Did you go out there at night, perhaps?

The reason I'm asking this, is because a lot of players seem to make the same mistake over and over again, even when knowing the mechanics.
And that mistake is to enter a biome with underlevelled gear, at the wrong (read: night) time and using the wrong (read: full stamina) food; then blaming the game's mechanics for getting killed.

The other mistake they make is to compare Valheim to a Souls Game. The thing is, it's not. Both are different game types and being good in one, doesn't mean you're good in another.
Kinda like being able to snipe everything off in one of the Sniper Elite games, then being trashed in Fall Out 4 and blaming the game's mechanics for it.

So...

If you're able to answer the four questions I asked, perhaps I and other will be able to help you a lot better.
Because it's not the game mechanics that's wrong, but it's usually the player - and that includes myself as well as I really HATE the Gollems - that's messing things up, thus ending up dead.
And often at the most inconvenient time and the most inconvenient spot.

Thorin :steamhappy:
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electricdawn (Banned) 6 Jan @ 4:53am 
Adding onto that, I'm 63 and I have no problem with game systems. The atgeir is my personal favorite for pretty much everything, as it has long reach, and its spin attack will stagger multiple(!) enemies at once.

I've killed so many wolves with the atgeir (even a bronze one will do), that I lost count. And my skill levels are a joke, just few reach 30 and above. Most everything else is below that.
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🎇TYPHOON🎇 7 Jan @ 5:48am 
I'm so tired of people with skill issues insulting the game, it's developers, other players, and demand changes to the mechanics in order to make the game easier just for them. Go play Stardew Valley, this game is apparently not for you.
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Exodite-Dragon (Banned) 7 Jan @ 6:50am 
Originally posted by 🎇TYPHOON🎇:
I'm so tired of people with skill issues insulting the game, it's developers, other players, and demand changes to the mechanics in order to make the game easier just for them. Go play Stardew Valley, this game is apparently not for you.

Now, now, that's a bit unfair to SDV and ConcernedApe. SDV has its own challenges that I'm certain would send OP into apoplexy, too.
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Soma 7 Jan @ 7:50am 
Originally posted by 🎇TYPHOON🎇:
I'm so tired of people with skill issues insulting the game, it's developers, other players, and demand changes to the mechanics in order to make the game easier just for them. Go play Stardew Valley, this game is apparently not for you.

Sounds like you need a break from early access. I gave you a warm blanket. Hopefully it will get you through these trying times.
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Bub Squi 7 Jan @ 5:03pm 
I hate saying this but it's true this time, this is a skill and knowledge issue. Your shield's potential relies on how much health you have so make sure you're updating your food. Make sure your shield is fully upgraded too.

Most important, make sure you're rested at all times. This is probably the most important part of Valheim, which I think is stupid but it is what it is. The game is borderline unplayable without rested even when you're not in combat.
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