Have you played the game? During the parts where you're supposed to move victims there is a popup on the top of the screen telling you NOT to move victims because it can cause more harm than good. There are various warnings during different parts of the game letting you know about differences between the game and real life. The same people who write in the chat that they would use these things in real life are the same who learn to drive playing Need For Speed and think they are ace drivers. Unfortunately you can't stop stupid people from doing stupid things.

You shouldn't scare helpers too much that they might do something wrong, otherwise they won't do anything and help will come too late. If a person is in a burning car, they should be taken out of the car. People who are unconscious should also be brought into a stable side position if possible. You learn that with every first aid course. Of course you should refrain from doing it with people where you are not sure yourself whether that would be a good thing. Each helper has to decide for himself what should and should not be done. Preferably in constant consultation with the emergency call center.

Originally posted by blackpirate2:

You shouldn't scare helpers too much that they might do something wrong, otherwise they won't do anything and help will come too late. If a person is in a burning car, they should be taken out of the car. People who are unconscious should also be brought into a stable side position if possible. You learn that with every first aid course. Of course you should refrain from doing it with people where you are not sure yourself whether that would be a good thing. Each helper has to decide for himself what should and should not be done. Preferably in constant consultation with the emergency call center.

false false false and still false! are you in the emergency business: firefighters, rescuers, emergency responders! I don't think so! find out before saying such stupidities!

Originally posted by SHYRELLE:

Originally posted by blackpirate2:

You shouldn't scare helpers too much that they might do something wrong, otherwise they won't do anything and help will come too late. If a person is in a burning car, they should be taken out of the car. People who are unconscious should also be brought into a stable side position if possible. You learn that with every first aid course. Of course you should refrain from doing it with people where you are not sure yourself whether that would be a good thing. Each helper has to decide for himself what should and should not be done. Preferably in constant consultation with the emergency call center.

false false false and still false! are you in the emergency business: firefighters, rescuers, emergency responders! I don't think so! find out before saying such stupidities!

So just to be clear; if I come across a burning car with an unconscious driver seconds from immolation, and the fire department/EMTs are not on the scene, I should let the victim burn? Good to know, will save myself from a possible lawsuit as well. Probably best not to call 911 either since I may get sued for not pulling the driver out of the fire. Best to just look the other way and drive on by. Thanks EMT guy appreciate your good advice.

Originally posted by SHYRELLE:

Originally posted by blackpirate2:

You shouldn't scare helpers too much that they might do something wrong, otherwise they won't do anything and help will come too late. If a person is in a burning car, they should be taken out of the car. People who are unconscious should also be brought into a stable side position if possible. You learn that with every first aid course. Of course you should refrain from doing it with people where you are not sure yourself whether that would be a good thing. Each helper has to decide for himself what should and should not be done. Preferably in constant consultation with the emergency call center.

false false false and still false! are you in the emergency business: firefighters, rescuers, emergency responders! I don't think so! find out before saying such stupidities!

In Germany you are obliged to provide first aid. I don't know how it is in your homeland.

Originally posted by blackpirate2:

Originally posted by SHYRELLE:

false false false and still false! are you in the emergency business: firefighters, rescuers, emergency responders! I don't think so! find out before saying such stupidities!

In Germany you are obliged to provide first aid. I don't know how it is in your homeland.

In France also on condition that you have your first aid diploma! But in this game the actions shown are false, you must not take a victim out of a vehicle etc etc! Only firefighters and emergency responders can touch the victims why because if the victim has internal bleeding, a broken cervical or other and you move it it will lead to serious consequences or even death! We do not do a cardiac massage as shown in this game! This is my job and this game is said to be educational, medical and others! We have diplomas we do not improvise firefighters or emergency responders! And if you look at the description of the game it says: apply these gestures in real life! No you must not do That in real life! A game remains a game if tomorrow everyone does this, the victims of the road will have to worry about it and we too for our profession! this is unacceptable!

Originally posted by SHYRELLE:

Originally posted by blackpirate2:

In Germany you are obliged to provide first aid. I don't know how it is in your homeland.

In France also on condition that you have your first aid diploma! But in this game the actions shown are false, you must not take a victim out of a vehicle etc etc! Only firefighters and emergency responders can touch the victims why because if the victim has internal bleeding, a broken cervical or other and you move it it will lead to serious consequences or even death! We do not do a cardiac massage as shown in this game! This is my job and this game is said to be educational, medical and others! We have diplomas we do not improvise firefighters or emergency responders! And if you look at the description of the game it says: apply these gestures in real life! No you must not do That in real life! A game remains a game if tomorrow everyone does this, the victims of the road will have to worry about it and we too for our profession! this is unacceptable!

Read this here. This is how German first aid workers are advised:
https://www.financescout24.de/wissen/ratgeber/autounfall-erste-hilfe

Originally posted by SHYRELLE:

Originally posted by blackpirate2:

In Germany you are obliged to provide first aid. I don't know how it is in your homeland.

In France also on condition that you have your first aid diploma! But in this game the actions shown are false, you must not take a victim out of a vehicle etc etc! Only firefighters and emergency responders can touch the victims why because if the victim has internal bleeding, a broken cervical or other and you move it it will lead to serious consequences or even death! We do not do a cardiac massage as shown in this game! This is my job and this game is said to be educational, medical and others! We have diplomas we do not improvise firefighters or emergency responders! And if you look at the description of the game it says: apply these gestures in real life! No you must not do That in real life! A game remains a game if tomorrow everyone does this, the victims of the road will have to worry about it and we too for our profession! this is unacceptable!

I have to say! France has some weird disgusting laws if this is true! Here in my country we are actually demanded to help!
Yes dont move people if it isnt neccecary! But if you realize that they arent breathing and or have no pulse you move them out of the car and start cpr!
The same implies for dangerous situations! Fire etc!
And your biggest mistake: You imply your countries weird "laws" for the rest of the world!

For realism, you should only be able to approach grieving and wounded people and ask them inane questions like "how are you feeling right now?" or "what were your thoughts leading up to the crash?", as that seems to be the only thing that journalists do nowadays.

o.- That is kind of out of left field.

There are exceptions to the do not move rule you may move someone if the threat to the patient is grater than the current condition of the patent aka FIRE,In a travel lane of a unsecured road,under a vehicle that is unstable ect..when the impending threat could leave the patent WORSE than they are now you can move them. yes I am a firefighter

Originally posted by SHYRELLE:

Originally posted by blackpirate2:

In Germany you are obliged to provide first aid. I don't know how it is in your homeland.

In France also on condition that you have your first aid diploma! But in this game the actions shown are false, you must not take a victim out of a vehicle etc etc! Only firefighters and emergency responders can touch the victims why because if the victim has internal bleeding, a broken cervical or other and you move it it will lead to serious consequences or even death! We do not do a cardiac massage as shown in this game! This is my job and this game is said to be educational, medical and others! We have diplomas we do not improvise firefighters or emergency responders! And if you look at the description of the game it says: apply these gestures in real life! No you must not do That in real life! A game remains a game if tomorrow everyone does this, the victims of the road will have to worry about it and we too for our profession! this is unacceptable!

Sorry, I can understand that you will never move a person if you can see maybe a possibility of a broken neck. Like after a crash with a biker or something like that. But if you find a person not breathing its totally normal to cpr them! I'am also from germany. Maybe some other countrys should overwork there laws.

Originally posted by Cigaro:

Originally posted by SHYRELLE:

In France also on condition that you have your first aid diploma! But in this game the actions shown are false, you must not take a victim out of a vehicle etc etc! Only firefighters and emergency responders can touch the victims why because if the victim has internal bleeding, a broken cervical or other and you move it it will lead to serious consequences or even death! We do not do a cardiac massage as shown in this game! This is my job and this game is said to be educational, medical and others! We have diplomas we do not improvise firefighters or emergency responders! And if you look at the description of the game it says: apply these gestures in real life! No you must not do That in real life! A game remains a game if tomorrow everyone does this, the victims of the road will have to worry about it and we too for our profession! this is unacceptable!

Sorry, I can understand that you will never move a person if you can see maybe a possibility of a broken neck. Like after a crash with a biker or something like that. But if you find a person not breathing its totally normal to cpr them! I'am also from germany. Maybe some other countrys should overwork there laws.

I read how it goes in Germany thanks to one of your colleagues who gave me the link: the scouts wow! fortunately in France it is not the scouts who issue the first aid diploma! Concerning the PRC yes I am ok and still on children it is not done like on an adult but hey! I say that the CPR shown in this game is scythe and not to reproduce! Read my first message correctly! This is my job and you are all scary in your comments! I hope that if you are the victim of an accident it will not be the players of this game who will help you because it will be direct to the cemetery!

In France, you can and have to move an uncouncious person only if the situation is dangerous and threatening for his/her life.

Originally posted by Newaru:

In France, you can and have to move an uncouncious person only if the situation is dangerous and threatening for his/her life.

In France the only people who can do this are the emergency services: firefighters, emergency physicians, emergency medical services and resuscitation and emergency medical outpatient services! People with only the first aid diploma cannot do this ! I am an emergency doctor, you are not going to teach me my job!