She seems pretty bad from my experience. Slow, few moves and her only strong point is throw damage. I assume you're new because you're having trouble with the ground kick but you can avoid that every time. Just recover backwards or tech bro.

quick rise.

RICHYROO2004 původně napsal:

Rachel is so overpowered it is ridiculous. I have seen lowly ranks beating much higher ranks with more experienced characters.

Literally launch into air, grab, punch combo, stomp when down, then grab when getting up (the stomp move doesnt let you recover).

Her hits are far too strong as well. One throw and 2 hit punch can lose a third off your health. Crazy unbalanced character and not at all fun to play against at the moment.

She is not OP, you just need play more against her. Keep in mind, that this "lowly ranks" may main her in DOA5 LR and come to DOA6 right now.

僕のピコ původně napsal:

She seems pretty bad from my experience. Slow, few moves and her only strong point is throw damage. I assume you're new because you're having trouble with the ground kick but you can avoid that every time. Just recover backwards or tech bro.

shes not bad. she feels the same as she did in 5lr. good/middle. tho only time will tell.

I've been playing DOA for 20 years and an S rank, so I'm hardly new. To be fair though I hardly played DOA5 and so have no experience against her.

She does seem to hit far harder than everyone else. There were 3 of us in the lobby and she was destroying everyone by a lower rank. What I witnessed last night has never happened with any other character.

We played nearly 5hrs straight too so had plenty of time to practice as this person only ever picked Rachel. In the 20 years of me playing its the first time it actually felt unfair.

RICHYROO2004 původně napsal:

I've been playing DOA for 20 years and an S rank, so I'm hardly new. To be fair though I hardly played DOA5 and so have no experience against her.

She does seem to hit far harder than everyone else. There were 3 of us in the lobby and she was destroying everyone by a lower rank. What I witnessed last night has never happened with any other character.

We played nearly 5hrs straight too so had plenty of time to practice as this person only ever picked Rachel. In the 20 years of me playing its the first time it actually felt unfair.

She's high damage, yes, but very slow. She relies on her throws to keep you guessing because she doesnt have much mixups on her strings and a lot of her buttons are unsafe. With your experience in DoA, you should download this character fast and know what to expect as her gameplan and move list isnt complicated.

If Rachel is beating you after that, she's winning with fundamentals because that's how she has to win.

I probably just need to get used to her. I will reserve judgement for now, even though I wasn't the only person having issues against her.

i dont have problem fighting Rachel
her appearance doesnt suddenly make myself getting stomped over by some random newbies nor some bandwagon high-rankers who never played rachel before
shes strong and annoying, but i can say that to most of the characters in the game lol

i do get stomped by people who already trained her in DOA5LR before, which in that case they may or may not already stomping me using other characters anyway

RICHYROO2004 původně napsal:

I probably just need to get used to her. I will reserve judgement for now, even though I wasn't the only person having issues against her.

Good idea!

I will say though that she is one noisy, annoying mere. Why does she have to scream with every move. I have to turn the sound down when I play against her!

RICHYROO2004 původně napsal:

I will say though that she is one noisy, annoying mere. Why does she have to scream with every move. I have to turn the sound down when I play against her!

Yes very true! I did the same thing :-)

RICHYROO2004 původně napsal:

I will say though that she is one noisy, annoying mere. Why does she have to scream with every move. I have to turn the sound down when I play against her!

her new voice sucks. im waiting on the mod that changes it back.

Rachel has one broken thing about her hurt box after 3+P, P, P that will be fixed soon.
That aside she has some VERY POWERFUL tools, not denying that, plus she's a heavy weight, killing several combos from other characters.
Other than that, she's not exactly OP, I think it's more a matter of people having to learn how to defend against her.
When you look at the technical data all her guard breaks suck and get her max +1 (there's one on +2 but it's not realistically useable). The Punch guard break actually leave her at -1 (MINUS!).
She has a nice 13 frames mid kick, but other than that she doesn't exactely have high frames on her other moves, quite the other way around.

Once you manage to land at least one hit, she has several blows that leave her with big advantage on hit.

I dunno, it's too early to say anything, but I wouldn't say OP at all, quite the other way around.


Granted, compared to other games and despite the obvious difference in strength in the various DoA6 characters, I'd say that overall they're pretty close to each other.
I've seen much larger differences in other games, truly.

RICHYROO2004 původně napsal:

Rachel is so overpowered it is ridiculous. I have seen lowly ranks beating much higher ranks with more experienced characters.

Literally launch into air, grab, punch combo, stomp when down, then grab when getting up (the stomp move doesnt let you recover).

Her hits are far too strong as well. One throw and 2 hit punch can lose a third off your health. Crazy unbalanced character and not at all fun to play against at the moment.

Arguments over who is op are thorny.
Some people say hayabusa is balanced. Crazy. There’s literally nothing that KT could do to make a character overpowered by fan consensus. It also matters who you play as. Some characters are very difficult for specific characters.

I tried ranked again for the first time in two weeks. Found her pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ strong. I don’t know her though. I started with 6.
KT usually makes Caucasian chicks strong, so I wouldn’t be surprised if she was op. The reverse of U.S. made games.
She’s loud, seems to have many fast, safe mids. Rachel players also held my ♥♥♥♥ a bit.


She’s pretty hot, so better than the male characters, most of whom are not only op, but aesthetically stupid looking, and look genetically-challenged.

RICHYROO2004 původně napsal:

Rachel is so overpowered it is ridiculous. I have seen lowly ranks beating much higher ranks with more experienced characters.

Literally launch into air, grab, punch combo, stomp when down, then grab when getting up (the stomp move doesnt let you recover).

Her hits are far too strong as well. One throw and 2 hit punch can lose a third off your health. Crazy unbalanced character and not at all fun to play against at the moment.

Her break blow is over powered as hell.
Nerf that heifer