Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition

Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition

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CTIA 27 Dec, 2024 @ 6:46am
Barbarossa Mission 4 - Lombard League - TIps?
Barbarossa Mission 4 - Lombard League - TIps?

Quite hard mission

Hard attack on 32 mins with Post Imp army
Any tips
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CTIA 27 Dec, 2024 @ 8:12am 
answer; constant outposts on green river and water control then make demo ships on river and wipe out the heavy attacks, onager enemy wood, hope that makes difference too
76561199501037742 27 Dec, 2024 @ 8:19am 
answer: get unbanned on YouTube.
James3157 27 Dec, 2024 @ 8:41am 
There is a big difference on this mission for standard difficulty vs moderate and hard difficulty. Standard difficulty can potentially be a tedious gameplay especially for people playing this mission for the first time, but overall it seems to be a lot easier than playing on moderate and hard difficulty where you might be forced to use different strategies on moderate and hard difficulty than standard difficulty. From my personal experience with Lombard League on moderate difficulty it is definitely challenging, but not too difficult if using the right strategies. Also, I think that defeating Venice (purple) seems to be the easiest way to win on harder difficulty settings than standard difficulty instead of defeating Verona (yellow) or Padua (green). The only thing I do not like about this mission is that Henry the Lion does not help you in any way before his betrayal meaning that he just sits back and does nothing besides booming his economy until his betrayal.
Last edited by James3157; 27 Dec, 2024 @ 8:48am
CTIA 27 Dec, 2024 @ 9:40am 
cannon galleon venice but they had like 5 navies of 50 ships and like 5 docks

Doing on hard, very hard
CTIA 27 Dec, 2024 @ 9:57am 
all enemy lumberjack idle with onager chop, not sure if made difference as I had 1000 kills, if it made difference then damn this mission is extreme
James3157 27 Dec, 2024 @ 10:03am 
Originally posted by NoobStomper:
cannon galleon venice but they had like 5 navies of 50 ships and like 5 docks

Doing on hard, very hard

Venice seems to be the biggest threat if you ignore them. Reason why I prioritize taking them out first instead of Verona or Padua if playing harder than standard difficulty. Also, I tried using the strategy of choosing only the north or the south on moderate difficulty from YouTube videos that shows how to win this on hard difficulty and failed at it every time even on moderate difficulty. I only won by taking control of both northern and southern parts of the map on moderate difficulty instead of choosing only one over the other, but northern section of the map contrary to the south needs to be completely walled with no other buildings near that wall that tricks the AI into thinking I have a base there without actually attacking the wall besides maybe with a few ships while the southern part of the map needs to be walled except for one section of the map near the coast which is supposed to be a trap because of castles being in the way that are even harder to deal with if Crenellations tech is researched as well.
Last edited by James3157; 27 Dec, 2024 @ 10:05am
suktep 27 Dec, 2024 @ 10:03am 
Beat this mission on hard recently. My strategy - on mission start move all units with ships as close to henry as possible. Settle town centre close to henry, demolish few barracks and guard towers owned by the enemy that get in the way.
Prioritize building 2 castles fully garrisoned with +3 range. Build one of them close to Henry so that it reaches his town centre. When he betrays you, he will be showered with arrows. Kill his rams with meele units, and he will be at your mercy.
The other castle built near the river passageway kills all enemy unit and ship advancements.
From here take down the closest town and build a wonder
James3157 27 Dec, 2024 @ 10:06am 
Originally posted by suktep:
Beat this mission on hard recently. My strategy - on mission start move all units with ships as close to henry as possible. Settle town centre close to henry, demolish few barracks and guard towers owned by the enemy that get in the way.
Prioritize building 2 castles fully garrisoned with +3 range. Build one of them close to Henry so that it reaches his town centre. When he betrays you, he will be showered with arrows. Kill his rams with meele units, and he will be at your mercy.
The other castle built near the river passageway kills all enemy unit and ship advancements.
From here take down the closest town and build a wonder

If playing by that strategy I am assuming that Verona (yellow) would be the easiest civ to take out on hard difficulty instead of Venice or Padua. Obviously not Padua, because they are the furthest away from Richard's base.
Last edited by James3157; 27 Dec, 2024 @ 10:09am
suktep 27 Dec, 2024 @ 10:17am 
Originally posted by James3157:
Originally posted by suktep:
Beat this mission on hard recently. My strategy - on mission start move all units with ships as close to henry as possible. Settle town centre close to henry, demolish few barracks and guard towers owned by the enemy that get in the way.
Prioritize building 2 castles fully garrisoned with +3 range. Build one of them close to Henry so that it reaches his town centre. When he betrays you, he will be showered with arrows. Kill his rams with meele units, and he will be at your mercy.
The other castle built near the river passageway kills all enemy unit and ship advancements.
From here take down the closest town and build a wonder

If playing by that strategy I am assuming that Verona (yellow) would be the easiest civ to take out on hard difficulty instead of Venice or Padua. Obviously not Padua, because they are the furthest away from Richard's base.

Yeah, If I recall correctly Yellow is the closest one.
Purple was non-threat at all, since castles completely obliterate navy, so purple just sent their units on suicide runs.
Green is the only one who builds trebuchets and bombard cannons, so having few cavalry units helps cleaning up any remaining siege, which tries to attack your castle on chokepoint
The other unit to worry is cavaliers, which may be tough for castles to take down, so naturally few spearmen help guarding chokepoint as well to give you time to build up your forces
James3157 27 Dec, 2024 @ 11:32am 
Originally posted by suktep:
Yeah, If I recall correctly Yellow is the closest one.
Purple was non-threat at all, since castles completely obliterate navy, so purple just sent their units on suicide runs.
Green is the only one who builds trebuchets and bombard cannons, so having few cavalry units helps cleaning up any remaining siege, which tries to attack your castle on chokepoint
The other unit to worry is cavaliers, which may be tough for castles to take down, so naturally few spearmen help guarding chokepoint as well to give you time to build up your forces

Cavaliers are not the biggest threat to Teuton castles with Crenellations researched especially if you combine that with hoardings, murder holes, masonry, and ballistics. That goes to trebuchets and rams. Even bombard cannons do not have a long enough range to be a significant threat to Teuton castles with Crenellations researched. I prioritize that tech during this mission, because it is very useful.
Last edited by James3157; 27 Dec, 2024 @ 11:33am
Flakstruk 28 Dec, 2024 @ 12:43am 
Ignore the promt to reposition, buid a castle inside the walls of younenemy just to the north and garrison it up. You can just agro enemy units into castlefire with light cavalry while you build up
James3157 28 Dec, 2024 @ 7:28am 
Originally posted by Flakstruk:
Ignore the promt to reposition, buid a castle inside the walls of younenemy just to the north and garrison it up. You can just agro enemy units into castlefire with light cavalry while you build up

I tried using that strategy of ignoring the south and focusing only on the north, but failed even on moderate difficulty and had to resign a number of times. In my opinion Papua is the hardest civ to take out instead of Verona or Venice. Ornlu the Wolf made it look easy to take out Papua on hard difficulty, but it is not. Unless if playing only on standard difficulty ignoring Papua seems to be the best approach for me.
Last edited by James3157; 28 Dec, 2024 @ 7:32am
Flakstruk 28 Dec, 2024 @ 1:40pm 
Originally posted by James3157:
Originally posted by Flakstruk:
Ignore the promt to reposition, buid a castle inside the walls of younenemy just to the north and garrison it up. You can just agro enemy units into castlefire with light cavalry while you build up

I tried using that strategy of ignoring the south and focusing only on the north, but failed even on moderate difficulty and had to resign a number of times. In my opinion Papua is the hardest civ to take out instead of Verona or Venice. Ornlu the Wolf made it look easy to take out Papua on hard difficulty, but it is not. Unless if playing only on standard difficulty ignoring Papua seems to be the best approach for me.
That is exactly the opposite of what i said
James3157 28 Dec, 2024 @ 6:55pm 
Originally posted by Flakstruk:
That is exactly the opposite of what i said

If I am not mistaken Padua is north and Henry the Lion is south. Verona and Venice are in the middle, but south of Padua.
Last edited by James3157; 28 Dec, 2024 @ 7:31pm
chaoticbalrog 28 Dec, 2024 @ 7:28pm 
Originally posted by James3157:
Originally posted by Flakstruk:
That is exactly the opposite of what i said

If I am not mistaken Padua is north and Richard the Lionheart is south. Verona and Venice are in the middle, but south of Padua.
Richard the Lionheart is not a player in The Lombard League.
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