Heaven's Vault

Heaven's Vault

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Skelly Man 20 Jan, 2020 @ 7:03pm
Before I proceed with 'Face to Face'...
Have I done everything right, and what do I need to do now?

So I'm on NG++ and accidentally missed Face to Face last playthrough and want it this time around. What I've done so far:

• I found the Crown on the hermit moon. Neither Six nor Myari know about it.
• I gave the Crown to Oroi, and have checked up on her and told her to see if she can get it to work, making sure Six doesn't know what she's working on.
• I have been to the graveyard moon, picked up the foil and robot hoop, and listened to Kaiya's message.
• I returned to Iox and spoke with Huang, who told me about a message saying Aliya needs to 'pick up her cat from Elboreth' (obviously meaning that Oroi has found something with the Crown that she felt she needed to let Aliya know about).

If I want the achievement, what should I do now? Should I go to the Withering Palace first then pick up Oroi, or should I go see Oroi first to show her the foil and talk about the crown, go to the Palace, then pick her up? Alternatively, have I missed anything else entirely?
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ZeroFarad 21 Jan, 2020 @ 10:55pm 
Well, I only know my own histories and not the general conditions, but based on where I remember getting that one I think the next relevant step is the Withering Palace. I don't see how seeing Oroi first could hurt, though.

...But it's possible you're operating on a deeper level than I was, and I lucked into it. IDK.
Skelly Man 23 Jan, 2020 @ 3:09pm 
Originally posted by Ezra:
Well, I only know my own histories and not the general conditions, but based on where I remember getting that one I think the next relevant step is the Withering Palace. I don't see how seeing Oroi first could hurt, though.

...But it's possible you're operating on a deeper level than I was, and I lucked into it. IDK.

Okay I just tried going to the Palace then going to back to Oroi, but it doesn’t seem to be working. I went through the site making sure to get every artifact and inscription I could, as well as getting Six to analyze the hopper eyes and using information from the site to infer that people used it to record themselves onto foils, but the only time that Aliya mentions Oroi is when the topic of the Great Forge comes up (in regards to how the hoppers could have been made), or after Six finishes explaining how he can hear voices, to which Aliya says something like “I bet Oroi is going to have fun taking you apart”.

When I actually go see Oroi, she mentions that she heard a voice in the Crown mention ‘Heaven’s Vault’, and showing her Kaiya’s foil makes her comment on its craftsmanship as well as bringing up the topic of the foil in her arm and how it helps her get her tools through the Catkis gate, but ultimately there’s no option for Aliya to ask her to come to the Palace.

I do have a backup of my save file before going to the Withering Palace, so I can roll it back if I need to, but I feel like I’ve messed up somewhere along the line.
Last edited by Skelly Man; 23 Jan, 2020 @ 3:14pm
ZeroFarad 23 Jan, 2020 @ 4:12pm 
Oh hm, my team never made the inference about foils there - one time I'd seen Kaiya but without taking the foil out, and the other time they didn't go up to her at all. Maybe knowing about foils made Six and Aliya conclude they already understood the WP (even though they don't quite fully)?
worstcase11 26 Jan, 2020 @ 10:40am 
Try to go to Iox and have Huang help you with a few translations, then go back to Oroi. Sometimes not all stacked up dialog can be played through at the same time.
AriiTopper 21 Jun, 2020 @ 1:44pm 
Still working on this, or did you figure it out ?
... Well, my experience (in both cases, had to give the crown to Myari) :
-The 1st time, I went to the Graveyard before, talked to Kaiya and left her foil there, maybe talked to Oroi about it (I'm not sure, but I pretty much went to her every single time I encountered something tech-y), then eventually to the Withering Palace, and told Oroi about the half-hopper and Six's memories. We went there immediately.
-2nd playthrough, I have been to WP, but not to the Graveyard yet ; I have the option to go talk to Oroi about WP (the map says Oroi might be able to help with Six's memories, at least)
Skelly Man 23 Jun, 2020 @ 1:44am 
Originally posted by Arii78:
Still working on this, or did you figure it out ?
... Well, my experience (in both cases, had to give the crown to Myari) :
-The 1st time, I went to the Graveyard before, talked to Kaiya and left her foil there, maybe talked to Oroi about it (I'm not sure, but I pretty much went to her every single time I encountered something tech-y), then eventually to the Withering Palace, and told Oroi about the half-hopper and Six's memories. We went there immediately.
-2nd playthrough, I have been to WP, but not to the Graveyard yet ; I have the option to go talk to Oroi about WP (the map says Oroi might be able to help with Six's memories, at least)

Unfortunately no I didn't figure it out.
Tikky Lightmaker 12 Oct, 2020 @ 11:54pm 
On the game+ it only activated for me after i had a convo with Six about its memories. We were on Iox. Specifically, it triggered after going up the stairs to Myari's office, but before going in. In fact i turned right around after this and went to see Oroi, then went to the Wh.Palace for the 2nd time.
NS Plover 13 Oct, 2020 @ 10:47am 
There is a lot to do the first time at the Withering Palace - first you have to struggle your way there and Six will try to get you to turn back or let him go instead (don't). Then once he starts remembering Six will attempt to get you to leave early. Don't do it. Take your time, Six will continue remembering... You should (not necessarily in this order) examine each god and translate the inscription, examine the hopper and the receiver(?) across the court from it, get the book on the bookshelf for Huang, examine all the levels of the roof, and examine under the palace - you should be able to get several artifacts in addition to the book (which is not the one from the burnt library) I usually stay with him while he remembers (in the area with the gods) and just move back and forth or examine things.

PS I've never had to give the crown to Myari to get Oroi to go to the Withering Palace.
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