Not sure.
I dont do anything special to play offline.
I just launch the game's exe
game says hi, you dont have internet, you are restricted to offline play and then
it lets me play.

And no network connection at all

Borderlands 3 dose that, 2 hangs up scanning for online or making online session. 1 just outright crashes, if I do not let it online, I do not want it online, so it be nice if the game would just work without jumping through hoops.... god I wish the DMCA didn't ruin game fixes....

Originally posted by zippydsmlee:

Borderlands 3 dose that, 2 hangs up scanning for online or making online session. 1 just outright crashes, if I do not let it online, I do not want it online, so it be nice if the game would just work without jumping through hoops.... god I wish the DMCA didn't ruin game fixes....

Unfortunately, this is a problem on your side rather than the game itself

BL1 does not crash, it does exactly as i described and happily runs devoid of a network connection entirely.

For that matter BL2 works also.
No hoops to jump through.

Sounds like you have manipulated something that is causing problems with the games.

Originally posted by Wiesshund:

Originally posted by zippydsmlee:

Borderlands 3 dose that, 2 hangs up scanning for online or making online session. 1 just outright crashes, if I do not let it online, I do not want it online, so it be nice if the game would just work without jumping through hoops.... god I wish the DMCA didn't ruin game fixes....

Unfortunately, this is a problem on your side rather than the game itself

BL1 does not crash, it does exactly as i described and happily runs devoid of a network connection entirely.

For that matter BL2 works also.
No hoops to jump through.

Sounds like you have manipulated something that is causing problems with the games.

I have 6 machines, I block all apps that do not need to run online, tested on all of them. (only 2 ever use steam online but I thought I would go and test all of them while I was updating windows and stuff)
If I do not let BL1 online first it will crash when I load a level or new game. Once the level is loaded it no longer cares about online status. Same if I toggle steam to offline mode then toggle it back on.

BL2 acts a bit differently, it will take a couple minutes to hunt for online servers, then finally let you in the game after 2-3 minutes and it searching.

if I let it online, I can be in the game, in less than 2-3 minutes. Then I can turn firewall back on or turn steam online back on.


If I use a pirated game I do not have this problem. The feature is a online check, for the online services the games uses. For BL1 it creates a crash with a general protection fault if its blocked or not in offline mode. BL2 just takes to long to find online servers, if its blocked or not in offline mode.

No idea what to tell you.

I dont have this issue, on Any machine.
Something about the way you are doing things is causing the issue.
It isnt a game issue.

Not even sure why you are inducing the issues?
All of the games natively have the option to play offline

Originally posted by Wiesshund:

No idea what to tell you.

I dont have this issue, on Any machine.
Something about the way you are doing things is causing the issue.
It isnt a game issue.

Not even sure why you are inducing the issues?
All of the games natively have the option to play offline

Have you blocked the game in your firewall?

Yes, but i dont know what you are doing in the firewall

why dont you just stop the game itself from talking and assumed the world just timed out?

WillowSteamWorks.ini
[OnlineSubsystemSteamworks.OnlineSubsystemSteamworks]
bEnableSteamQoS=true

[OnlineSubsystemSteamworks.QoSHandlerSteamworks]
MaxQoSRequest=0
MaxQoSListen=0
NumPingProbes=0
PingProbeSize=0
PingTimeout=0.1
ChallengeTimeout=0.1
ListenTimeout=0.1

[IniVersion]
0=1683824418.000000


Wont be able to talk to anything because it times out immediately
game can think it's online all day long, but it will keep timing out, you wont even be able to get shift rewards cause it will give up

or launch from a bat file
Example

netsh interface set interface wi-fi disable

start "" /wait "C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\BorderlandsGOTYEnhanced\Binaries\Win64\BorderlandsGOTY.exe"

netsh interface set interface wi-fi enable


Or you could have it start, wait XX time then turn it back on, if you need to watch netflix while playing.

Cant tell you how to fix whatever you are doing

Originally posted by Wiesshund:

Yes, but i dont know what you are doing in the firewall

why dont you just stop the game itself from talking and assumed the world just timed out?

WillowSteamWorks.ini
[OnlineSubsystemSteamworks.OnlineSubsystemSteamworks]
bEnableSteamQoS=true

[OnlineSubsystemSteamworks.QoSHandlerSteamworks]
MaxQoSRequest=0
MaxQoSListen=0
NumPingProbes=0
PingProbeSize=0
PingTimeout=0.1
ChallengeTimeout=0.1
ListenTimeout=0.1

[IniVersion]
0=1683824418.000000


Wont be able to talk to anything because it times out immediately
game can think it's online all day long, but it will keep timing out, you wont even be able to get shift rewards cause it will give up

or launch from a bat file
Example

netsh interface set interface wi-fi disable

start "" /wait "C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\BorderlandsGOTYEnhanced\Binaries\Win64\BorderlandsGOTY.exe"

netsh interface set interface wi-fi enable


Or you could have it start, wait XX time then turn it back on, if you need to watch netflix while playing.

Cant tell you how to fix whatever you are doing

Blocking the exe completely from online. Both inbound and outbound.

Going to do some more testing.

Originally posted by Wiesshund:

Yes, but i dont know what you are doing in the firewall

why dont you just stop the game itself from talking and assumed the world just timed out?

WillowSteamWorks.ini
[OnlineSubsystemSteamworks.OnlineSubsystemSteamworks]
bEnableSteamQoS=true

[OnlineSubsystemSteamworks.QoSHandlerSteamworks]
MaxQoSRequest=0
MaxQoSListen=0
NumPingProbes=0
PingProbeSize=0
PingTimeout=0.1
ChallengeTimeout=0.1
ListenTimeout=0.1

[IniVersion]
0=1683824418.000000


Wont be able to talk to anything because it times out immediately
game can think it's online all day long, but it will keep timing out, you wont even be able to get shift rewards cause it will give up

or launch from a bat file
Example

netsh interface set interface wi-fi disable

start "" /wait "C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\BorderlandsGOTYEnhanced\Binaries\Win64\BorderlandsGOTY.exe"

netsh interface set interface wi-fi enable


Or you could have it start, wait XX time then turn it back on, if you need to watch netflix while playing.

Cant tell you how to fix whatever you are doing

Welp no luck with the ini changes for BL1, if steam is not set to offline mode or the game is not online, there's a lag delay in mouse input for 10-20 seconds before you can bring up the menu, this always happens when the game crashes when you load a level.

Its an odd bug that must be part of the drm or online check that creates the general protection fault.

BL2 is the same I edited the ini and the search time to get into the game dose not really decrease. BL2 seemingly has an obnoxious search time for online features until you can get into the game. Dose not matter if its in offline or online mode.

Thanks for the suggestions BTW!

Originally posted by zippydsmlee:

Welp no luck with the ini changes for BL1, if steam is not set to offline mode or the game is not online, there's a lag delay in mouse input for 10-20 seconds before you can bring up the menu, this always happens when the game crashes when you load a level.

Its an odd bug that must be part of the drm or online check that creates the general protection fault.

BL2 is the same I edited the ini and the search time to get into the game dose not really decrease. BL2 seemingly has an obnoxious search time for online features until you can get into the game. Dose not matter if its in offline or online mode.

Thanks for the suggestions BTW!

ok 1st, disable the firewall rule.
then try the ini as i posted it
launch BL1 and try to browse for games

nothing should appear.

now go ahead and fire up network game

have someone try to join
even if you friend invite them, they should fail to find you to get in.

tried that on 4 machines here
none of them could find games, nor could they join each other

Or do the second method i gave you
(and disable the firewall rule, cause whatever you have set there is screwing with it)
Game will flat out tell you Hi, aint no internets here, we can only play offline mode.
Game wont even try to talk to anything anymore, even if you want it to, until you restart the game.

And depending on what you want, you can leave the interface disconnected will you exit the game, or just put in a delay long enough to have the game launched and then let it reenable the interface.

in any case, disable the firewall rule, because however it is assembled, it seems to be doing havoc to things.
Not sure what router you are using.

as far as DRM, isnt that.
i have bl1 and bl2 on a machine that literally never goes on line, doesnt even have a lan adapter, it's just attached to a tv in case someone wants to play something.
So they cant even check drm if they wanted to

Originally posted by zippydsmlee:

Originally posted by Wiesshund:

Unfortunately, this is a problem on your side rather than the game itself

BL1 does not crash, it does exactly as i described and happily runs devoid of a network connection entirely.

For that matter BL2 works also.
No hoops to jump through.

Sounds like you have manipulated something that is causing problems with the games.

I have 6 machines, I block all apps that do not need to run online, tested on all of them. (only 2 ever use steam online but I thought I would go and test all of them while I was updating windows and stuff)
If I do not let BL1 online first it will crash when I load a level or new game. Once the level is loaded it no longer cares about online status. Same if I toggle steam to offline mode then toggle it back on.

BL2 acts a bit differently, it will take a couple minutes to hunt for online servers, then finally let you in the game after 2-3 minutes and it searching.

if I let it online, I can be in the game, in less than 2-3 minutes. Then I can turn firewall back on or turn steam online back on.


If I use a pirated game I do not have this problem. The feature is a online check, for the online services the games uses. For BL1 it creates a crash with a general protection fault if its blocked or not in offline mode. BL2 just takes to long to find online servers, if its blocked or not in offline mode.

Here's the test you need to run:

1.) PHYSICALLY disable your internet so that you're not going to "expose" yourself to any unwanted scary hackers. Like literally, unplug your entire router. NO INTERNET.

2.) Since you have ZERO internet AT ALL now that you've done step 1, step 2 is to UNBLOCK EVERYTHING. Turn off ALL FIREWALL, let ALL programs run. Literally, as if you were a normal person using a normal computer. NO BLOCKS.

3.) See if Borderlands will run. I'm willing to bet real life money it will run FLAWLESSLY in single player.