Originally posted by Marlon:

Many of the songs that first played in Ch6 Tsumihoroboshi, and even some that were used in previous chapters were either replaced by songs of the old 'MangaGamer soundtrack' I mentioned earlier or by a different song (Cradle Song for example played on a lot of places where it wasn't originally supposed to)
I believe it's exactly the same how it was as the 2009-2010 release, unlike the previous re-released chapters that are now on steam.

This is something I've been wondering about myself. I noticed the music problem even in the promotional video in the Steam store. I'm not 100% sure, because I only have the previous MG releases and what some people who seem to know what they're talking about to go on, rather than the original Japanese releases. But more people like yourself are in agreement, so I feel more confident about this as a result.

In short: the previous chapters had their original music restored for the steam release, but this one doesn't.

Is this all by mistake, or was MangaGamer not able to licence the music for this chapter?

I don't know. I've had some concerns for a while. If you go back and look at the Hou release of "Meakashi-hen", look at the BGM files. There are some MG tracks in there. None of them are used, but it made me concerned, considering that for every single one of the question arcs, they just threw in all of the tracks from all of the question arcs whether specific tracks were used in that arc or not.

Now that I look at the BGM directory for this arc, I find that the files are 100% identical. What the hell? They did say that the original music has been restored, but now we're getting this.

This isn't the first time we've seen some issues. In "Meakashi-hen", they seem to have completely left out the credits sequence that includes the list of characters and their fates. Which is bad for three reasons: 1. We don't get to read the damn list! 2. People are not being credited like they should be, which is problematic, including maybe legally. 3. It's the only time in that arc that a specific version of "You" plays, which means we never hear it like we should. As a bonus, the image resource that the sequence would show to create the credits scroll is included in the files, but it lacks the credits!

Also wanna point out that the sound effects z01_iwakan and z02_kyousou keep looping in some places, mainly the second one.
I also had this problem while reading that when I played the 2009-2010 release.... they're very unpleasant to listen to for almost 10 minutes... They're burned in my memory forever

I find it annoying too.

What is weird is that this sound effect doesn't even play in the original release at all (at least in that scene as far as i know)...

Which one? Also, by "original release", do you mean 07th Expansion's original Japanese release, the one using the NScripter engine, etc.? I have to admit, I have only indirect knowledge of that. But if this is true, then I'm glad in a way, because I was never sure if this annoying thing was as originally written. Also also, do you know where the misused sound effect came from, then? Because even the question arcs of this version have "Kyousou" in the files, albeit unused. I've been aware of it ever since I heard it in Fuandon's LP years ago that made me aware of Higurashi. He had what may be an odd patch, or set of patches, that included PS2 graphics and a mix of original and PS2 BGMs (which is okay I guess, because the PS2 soundtrack is lovely in its own right). And "Kyousou" in place of a certain other sting that should be in the question arcs.

Kyouki he no Kairou / getting_mad.ogg played at the place where the sound effect started looping.... for like 10 minutes or more

Really? That seems like a much better thing to have playing there.

I want whoever is responsible for this to listen to it on repeat for over 10 minutes

Well, Doddler is the developer working on these releases. I don't know if he made these decisions/mistakes, though. Maybe it's time to ask him (politely, of course) whether he's aware of these issues, what's going on, whether they're going to be fixed, etc. He'll probably give a response of some kind if you tweet at him, unlike MG.

(Slso please don't take over a year again to release the next chapter/episode)

Amen.

This isn't the first time we've seen some issues. In "Meakashi-hen", they seem to have completely left out the credits sequence that includes the list of characters and their fates. Which is bad for three reasons: 1. We don't get to read the damn list! 2. People are not being credited like they should be, which is problematic, including maybe legally. 3. It's the only time in that arc that a specific version of "You" plays, which means we never hear it like we should. As a bonus, the image resource that the sequence would show to create the credits scroll is included in the files, but it lacks the credits!

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, i knew there was something off about the the roll at the end, it's missing the entire credits sequence. That's like a really big mess up.
I really hope they'll fix that

Which one? Also, by "original release", do you mean 07th Expansion's original Japanese release, the one using the NScripter engine, etc.?

Yes, I only looked it up for that scene because it really bothered me.
Found a playthrough of it on YouTube. But to make things more confusing, I'm quite sure there are also different versions of the Japanese PC releases that have some differences between them. But none of this really is that relevant lol.

Also also, do you know where the misused sound effect came from, then? Because even the question arcs of this version have "Kyousou" in the files, albeit unused. I've been aware of it ever since I heard it in Fuandon's LP years ago that made me aware of Higurashi. He had what may be an odd patch, or set of patches, that included PS2 graphics and a mix of original and PS2 BGMs (which is okay I guess, because the PS2 soundtrack is lovely in its own right). And "Kyousou" in place of a certain other sting that should be in the question arcs.

I can't say for sure but I think it's either a sound effect added for the MangaGamer 2009-2010 release because of licensing issues like with the music, or it's an effect that got used at some point originally but MG decided to use it at more places to replace music and other sound effects they couldn't use. Who knows

This isn't surprising, really. The way they're porting Higurashi to Unity is to basically port the Ethornell scripts (the engine used for the old mangagamer release) to unity. So you'd have to manually change the bgms and sound effects back to the original. But since the programming and scripting are afaik being handled by a single person, it's easy to miss/forget.

Just give it a few days and they'll probably fix it.

i just made a patch for it myself, because i had nothing better to do.
Updated the thread for it.

Just FYI, two tracks that are introduced in "Minagoroshi-hen", namely "R of Can" (filename "g_tactics") and "Shirokiri no Itadaki -Blanc Pur-" (filename "g_operation") are not in the Hou files, but their MG subs are. I'm not too upset about losing the former, but the latter is quite memorable, and the thing MG made just doesn't hold up in the least, IMO. I really hope they get the original in.

Okay, I looked over your patch, and it looks good. Or at the very least, there's nothing bad in it. Man, you sure worked fast, it seems.

BTW, what about "Meakashi-hen"? Do you think there are problems like this in it? I think there might be at least a couple (like the looped Kyousou, I think?); probably not as many as in this one, but still... I figure, since you have both the will and the means to do this, would you consider doing it for "Meakashi-hen" as well?

Hi there. I lead the "Are You Ready For Watanagashi?" group on Steam.
One of the pinned discussions on the group is a collection of links to community made mods for the Steam release higurashi games.

https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/groups/AYRFWata/discussions/0/451848855000361663/?ctp=2

At the request of filthdcrb, I've most recently added a link to this discussion page.
If the way in which I've done this is not to your liking, please reply and I will change things immediately.

Originally posted by fllthdcrb:

BTW, what about "Meakashi-hen"? Do you think there are problems like this in it? I think there might be at least a couple (like the looped Kyousou, I think?); probably not as many as in this one, but still... I figure, since you have both the will and the means to do this, would you consider doing it for "Meakashi-hen" as well?

Meakashi is completely fine when it comes to this, it already has all the original music restored, the sound effect plays only once in it and doesn't loop. it was only this chapter that had the problems, i really think they just forgot about it for this one.

I really hope they don't let this happen for the next one...

Ah, I knew something was off when I listened to the music. I'm kind of torn though, I'd prefer the original music for most of the tracks, but I really liked MangaGamer's "Dive" track in this chapter. I thought it fit in better than the tracks it replaced.

Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

I have passed along this thread to our Higurashi team to investigate the issues noted above.

Thank you.

Originally posted by le_kaitsu:

Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

I have passed along this thread to our Higurashi team to investigate the issues noted above.

Thank you.

Thank you for the reply on this one Le_Kaitsu!

Originally posted by le_kaitsu:

Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

I have passed along this thread to our Higurashi team to investigate the issues noted above.

Thank you.

I hope that the Ch5 issues noted above can be fixed as well, involving the credit sequence not properly displaying at all; knowing that I missed an entire portion of the game due to a bug, however small, is pretty alarming.

Yeah, me too. I'd love to see that put back in there the way it's supposed to be, with or without the credits. At least have that version of "You" playing in some form in the arc; that sequence was the only place.

Funny thing is, I saw evidence of it being scripted somewhere at some point: there is a commented-out reference to a different variant of "Meakashi-hen"'s staff roll picture in "Tsumihoroboshi-hen"'s staff roll script. No doubt an artifact of some copypasting going on. That's fine, but given it exists, I have to wonder, what happened?

Originally posted by fllthdcrb:

This isn't the first time we've seen some issues. In "Meakashi-hen", they seem to have completely left out the credits sequence that includes the list of characters and their fates. Which is bad for three reasons: 1. We don't get to read the damn list! 2. People are not being credited like they should be, which is problematic, including maybe legally. 3. It's the only time in that arc that a specific version of "You" plays, which means we never hear it like we should. As a bonus, the image resource that the sequence would show to create the credits scroll is included in the files, but it lacks the credits!

Haven't they fixed this yet? I have pointed the issue out to Doddler, the programmer of
Higurashi and it seemed they where working on it.

Source: https://twitter.com/The_Doddler/status/875823663689285632

If it isn't done yet, I hope they will fix it, because the credits sequence is important for the reasons you listed.

MangaGamer seems to have become a bit sloppy with their Higurashi releases.

Originally posted by Chaos_Alfa:

Haven't they fixed this yet? I have pointed the issue out to Doddler, the programmer of Higurashi and it seemed they where working on it.

Wow. So that happened. But the thing is definitely still not there. I do, however, find this line in _meak_ep_02.txt:
This would produce the staff roll, but it's commented out, so it does nothing, and the script in question is missing.

I think, with Higurashi having been pushed aside for other projects (the reason for the months of delay), this issue may have been forgotten.