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zolobolo 17 DIC 2022 a las 9:11 a. m.
Map: Imperium Romanum: The Roman World!
I love the new map it gives a much more challenging and paced out environment for players picking Rome
The removal of the additional Italic cities was necessary to conserve performance but still keep the Roman faction at around the same level as the other main factions

Generally like the placement of the tribes with one exception of the Thracians as they seem to act like a placeholder filling in all Barbarian sites (with no barbarians option on)

If there is no limit in the game for the amount of tribes I would recommend the addition of following new tribe in descending order of importance:
- Galatia or Lydian tribe for Asia Minor: 7 sites including Crete
- Kush tribe South from Egypt start position (4 sites), the two sites in Cyrene and the single site in Arabian Petraea: 7 sites
- Mitanni or Arabic tribe for the area East and South-East from Asia-Minor: 8 sites

I wouldn't add more tribes even if possible as each tribe needs to have at min 7 city sites to function properly in the game but having too many cities is a huge burden on performance and also drags out the game time unnecessarily

In general I would recommend no matter if tribes are limited in number or not:
- Giving the empty city site in Northern Italy to the Gauls to amp up the difficulty for the player. Generally not a fan of empty city sites :) This would bump their site count up from 9 to 10 which is suitable for their role in providing both early and mid-game speed bump
The other empty city sites allocations are also pretty obvious though I am not sure the AI could handle a single city start surrounded with tribes and no empty sites or barbarians
- Give all 3 city sites in Scythia region to the Scythians tribe instead of Thrace bumping up their site count from 9 to 12 to give Scythians more staying power in late game and allow them to amass more forces overall to act as an organic barrier around the North-East of the map. Also the region carries their name so I am sure they would be happy to have it :)
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arvedui78 19 DIC 2022 a las 1:23 p. m. 
About the empty city site in northern Italy: I think it is an organic rule of the game that there should always be one empty city site near the capital, that automatically becomes visible when the former is founded... But anyway, I haven't played much with it yet, how much bigger is this map in relation to the 'old world' one? I noticed it gets way up north in Europe.
zolobolo 19 DIC 2022 a las 1:39 p. m. 
Its a redesigned map but feels clearly bigger as well
Última edición por zolobolo; 19 DIC 2022 a las 1:39 p. m.
Dale Kent 19 DIC 2022 a las 2:11 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por arvedui78:
About the empty city site in northern Italy: I think it is an organic rule of the game that there should always be one empty city site near the capital, that automatically becomes visible when the former is founded... But anyway, I haven't played much with it yet, how much bigger is this map in relation to the 'old world' one? I noticed it gets way up north in Europe.

This is correct. The game will automatically assign empty city sites per player.

The Imperium Romanum map is 126 tiles wide, and 105 tiles high. It stretches from the Atlantic to central Asia (Aral Sea is on the map), and from the Nile confluence (near modern day Khartoum) in Sudan up to about the level of Oslo-Stockholm.

So quite a large map.
Última edición por Dale Kent; 19 DIC 2022 a las 2:16 p. m.
arvedui78 19 DIC 2022 a las 6:52 p. m. 
One thing, is it by design that it does not contain ruins? Or is this not the final version of the map?
Dale Kent 19 DIC 2022 a las 7:30 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por arvedui78:
One thing, is it by design that it does not contain ruins? Or is this not the final version of the map?

I'm going to go with "not the final version of the map" here.

Dang it. Forgot ruins. Now I need to add a "Random Ruins" button to the map editor *grumble grumble*
Dale Kent 19 DIC 2022 a las 9:33 p. m. 
I've added a "Random Ruins" button to the map editor (to go with the new "Random Resources" and "Random Element Names" buttons). Plus I've submitted an update that adds ruins to the map.

Did I forget anything else? :D
Dale Kent 19 DIC 2022 a las 10:08 p. m. 
Oh, should add I've made a change to the Byzantium area so now it's possible to move ships between seas through the Byzantium city site.
zolobolo 19 DIC 2022 a las 10:54 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Dale Kent:
Oh, should add I've made a change to the Byzantium area so now it's possible to move ships between seas through the Byzantium city site.
Can ships move through two city tiles at once or is the new version not updated yet?
Could be the latter as I also dont see ruins yet

Question: Are the number of tribes limited by the engine or the number of tribes created for the game?
Dale Kent 20 DIC 2022 a las 2:55 a. m. 
Just note that when I say I've made changes, it means to the development version, which will eventually make its way to the Test version, and further to Main. I think Main is being updated this week but with the changes in last week's Test version. So these changes will come through in the Main update after this week (probably second week of Jan now as we enter end of year closure this week).
zolobolo 20 DIC 2022 a las 2:56 a. m. 
Makes sense thanks!
Fluffster  [desarrollador] 20 DIC 2022 a las 4:52 a. m. 
The changes to the map have been merged for the main release this week, ruins and redesigned Byzantium coming soon!
Hendricus 20 DIC 2022 a las 12:53 p. m. 
Looking forward to that new map.
Splashngo 21 DIC 2022 a las 5:36 p. m. 
can we see a photo of the new map?
Dale Kent 21 DIC 2022 a las 7:49 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Splashngo:
can we see a photo of the new map?

https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2904980274
Splashngo 21 DIC 2022 a las 8:19 p. m. 
fantastico!
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