Them's Fightin' Herds

Them's Fightin' Herds

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Hoppa_21 6 May, 2024 @ 6:32am
Refunding for False Advertizing
Hey there. I did buy the game for the story alone. It was advertized as a game with a story and now there is nothing, so can I get a refund for this? I wouldn't have bought it if I had known that the story would be cancelled, so I feel scammed. I don't mean any offense as the situation is no doubt bad for the developers too, but right now I sadly bought the game because of something that is probably never going to happen.
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Tanoomba 6 May, 2024 @ 6:50am 
You bought the game in the condition it was sold in. It is never a good idea to buy a game with the assumption that it will become something else down the line, regardless of the devs' plans. Plans change, cricumstances change, and game development is a volatile and unpredictable process.
Hoppa_21 6 May, 2024 @ 8:01am 
Originally posted by Tanoomba:
You bought the game in the condition it was sold in. It is never a good idea to buy a game with the assumption that it will become something else down the line, regardless of the devs' plans. Plans change, cricumstances change, and game development is a volatile and unpredictable process.

So, if I buy a car and I am promised to get seat warmers for it later and it is not delivered, I should not point out that there is a problem? If I cannot trust a company, then there is a problem here. Can a company sell me literally anything with promises and not keep it? That is my point. No offense meant, but this is a problem.
Tanoomba 6 May, 2024 @ 10:14am 
Originally posted by Hoppa_21:
So, if I buy a car
False equivalence.

Originally posted by Hoppa_21:
That is my point. No offense meant, but this is a problem.
A problem that is solved by not buying games under the assumption they're going to become something else later, regardless of what the devs say.
Hoppa_21 6 May, 2024 @ 11:36am 
Originally posted by Tanoomba:
Originally posted by Hoppa_21:
So, if I buy a car
False equivalence.

Originally posted by Hoppa_21:
That is my point. No offense meant, but this is a problem.
A problem that is solved by not buying games under the assumption they're going to become something else later, regardless of what the devs say.

So, if I buy something and it is not delivered I have no rights? I cannot do anything? Your kind of reasoning is opening con artists the doors. There are laws in place for false advertisements and just saying "well, don't buy it" is disingenious and not solving the problem that it is already in the past. One of these days, there will be a lawsuit over this.
Tanoomba 6 May, 2024 @ 12:15pm 
Originally posted by Hoppa_21:
So, if I buy something and it is not delivered I have no rights?
You didn't buy the future story content. You bought the game in the state it was in.

Originally posted by Hoppa_21:
There are laws in place for false advertisements
Indeed there are. None were broken here. False advertising involves intentionally misleading people to trick them into parting with their money. It's not false advertising when a development project collapses despite the best efforts of all involved.

Originally posted by Hoppa_21:
One of these days, there will be a lawsuit over this.
No, there won't.
Hoppa_21 7 May, 2024 @ 7:05am 
Originally posted by Tanoomba:
Originally posted by Hoppa_21:
So, if I buy something and it is not delivered I have no rights?
You didn't buy the future story content. You bought the game in the state it was in.

Originally posted by Hoppa_21:
There are laws in place for false advertisements
Indeed there are. None were broken here. False advertising involves intentionally misleading people to trick them into parting with their money. It's not false advertising when a development project collapses despite the best efforts of all involved.

Originally posted by Hoppa_21:
One of these days, there will be a lawsuit over this.
No, there won't.

Collapse? There was no official collapse. Literally no one knows the exact reason. You are making things up at this point. And yes, there will be a lawsuit over such conduct. Broken promises are quite common nowadays in gaming. Thinking companies will get away with this is just delusional.
Tanoomba 7 May, 2024 @ 7:13am 
Originally posted by Hoppa_21:
Collapse? There was no official collapse. Literally no one knows the exact reason. You are making things up at this point.
Hey, you're the one assuming malice where there is none.

Originally posted by Hoppa_21:
And yes, there will be a lawsuit over such conduct.
There won't.
1.2M | Missingno. 12 May, 2024 @ 12:04am 
Originally posted by Hoppa_21:
Broken promises are quite common nowadays in gaming.
Sadly it is common, but that's why you should know by now to only ever buy a game for what it is now, not what it might be in the future. Especially when said future promises are extremely lofty and ambitious, they may not ever live up to your expectations. Sometimes projects just don't make it all the way.

We do know what happened, they stretched themselves too thin trying to deliver too much with too small of a team and too low of a budget. That was the collapse. But in spite of that, they still delivered a hell of a game that stands as one of my favorite fighting games of all time, story mode or not.

I bought the game for what was there when I purchased it, and that was well worth it to me.
Hoppa_21 12 May, 2024 @ 7:55am 
Originally posted by Missingno.:
Originally posted by Hoppa_21:
Broken promises are quite common nowadays in gaming.
Sadly it is common, but that's why you should know by now to only ever buy a game for what it is now, not what it might be in the future. Especially when said future promises are extremely lofty and ambitious, they may not ever live up to your expectations. Sometimes projects just don't make it all the way.

We do know what happened, they stretched themselves too thin trying to deliver too much with too small of a team and too low of a budget. That was the collapse. But in spite of that, they still delivered a hell of a game that stands as one of my favorite fighting games of all time, story mode or not.

I bought the game for what was there when I purchased it, and that was well worth it to me.

I bought it for the story. Without the story, I have no reason to have this game. It is nice that you love it, but I cannot love it because of what happened. I just want it gone, completely and my money returned, hence why I am nonstop requesting refunds and writing to the Steam Support about this situation.

Just because such a deplorable situation is common, doesn't mean it is morally right or even legal, so I will continue my fight.
Tanoomba 12 May, 2024 @ 8:00am 
Originally posted by Hoppa_21:
I bought it for the story. Without the story, I have no reason to have this game.
If the story was the only reason you bought the game, then you should have waited for the story to actually be added before buying it. You bought it in the state it was in and received what you paid for.
Hoppa_21 12 May, 2024 @ 11:37am 
Originally posted by Tanoomba:
Originally posted by Hoppa_21:
I bought it for the story. Without the story, I have no reason to have this game.
If the story was the only reason you bought the game, then you should have waited for the story to actually be added before buying it. You bought it in the state it was in and received what you paid for.

Yeah. And what I paid for were broken promises seemingly, hence why I am going to press for a refund. I aleady sent 7 inquiries about it and I will sent a 1000 if need be. I am not going to accept this. You can disagree with that, but I am not going to simply let this slide. There was a lot of trust lost.

Making a post here in the hopes the developers see it was probably a fool's hope. Instead I am arguing without any progress being made. I am just going to press harder against them and I will do so until a refund was made. I can be stubborn and I will be stubborn. I won a case before and I will win it now as well.
Hoppa_21 12 May, 2024 @ 1:51pm 
Is there a way to close or delete this thread?
Tanoomba 12 May, 2024 @ 4:21pm 
Originally posted by Hoppa_21:
Yeah. And what I paid for were broken promises seemingly, hence why I am going to press for a refund. I aleady sent 7 inquiries about it and I will sent a 1000 if need be. I am not going to accept this. You can disagree with that, but I am not going to simply let this slide. There was a lot of trust lost.
Of course you're welcome to do whatever you want, but at some point it's likely you'll realize you're just wasting your time. You're not entitled to a refund and you're not likely going to get one.
Hoppa_21 13 May, 2024 @ 10:59am 
Originally posted by Tanoomba:
Originally posted by Hoppa_21:
Yeah. And what I paid for were broken promises seemingly, hence why I am going to press for a refund. I aleady sent 7 inquiries about it and I will sent a 1000 if need be. I am not going to accept this. You can disagree with that, but I am not going to simply let this slide. There was a lot of trust lost.
Of course you're welcome to do whatever you want, but at some point it's likely you'll realize you're just wasting your time. You're not entitled to a refund and you're not likely going to get one.

I am wasting Steam's time as well, which is fine with me at this point. I dislike you using the word "entitled" for this. Broken promises are not okay. Doesn't matter if you think they are and I will leave it at that. I will have a go at Steam and see what I can do.
Tanoomba 13 May, 2024 @ 12:20pm 
Originally posted by Hoppa_21:
Broken promises are not okay.
I'm not saying they are. But there's a big difference between studios intentionally misleading people and studios being the victims of circumstance despite their best efforts. Sometimes ♥♥♥♥ happens. Trying to waste Steam's time out of spite is not likely to end well for you.
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