Doesnt happen on campaign you can abuse them all the time too

Originally posted by Witch ~:

Move slightly behind the team? Vote kick
Move slightly before the team? Vote kick
Get grabbed by a special while the team ignores you? Vote kicked
Get outplayed like a normal person in versus? Vote kick

And every single lobby is just filled with the most bitter annoying people I've ever seen. Like they just live off negative emotions. WTF happened? Other old game lobbies are nowhere this bad

If you wanna play sometime I'm down. It can be like that with this game.

don't bother with versus mode, stick with campaign mode, leave survival for when you're more experienced, and leave versus pubs for when you're both experienced and you acknowledge that the gamemode is an unchangeable cesspool of toxicity and you may not always have a good match there

Originally posted by Witch:

don't bother with versus mode, stick with campaign mode, leave survival for when you're more experienced, and leave versus pubs for when you're both experienced and you acknowledge that the gamemode is an unchangeable cesspool of toxicity and you may not always have a good match there

Forgot to mention that it was versus. In the short time I played I was genuine just baffled at how much it smelled like tryhard l*sers. Genuine never seen such a huge density of bitter people and I used to play tf2 and league. Why is it so bad?

Originally posted by Witch ~:

Originally posted by Witch:

don't bother with versus mode, stick with campaign mode, leave survival for when you're more experienced, and leave versus pubs for when you're both experienced and you acknowledge that the gamemode is an unchangeable cesspool of toxicity and you may not always have a good match there

Forgot to mention that it was versus. In the short time I played I was genuine just baffled at how much it smelled like tryhard l*sers. Genuine never seen such a huge density of bitter people and I used to play tf2 and league. Why is it so bad?

the current gaming landscape has conditioned gamers to take pvp games 100x more seriously than they should, and as a result, people affected by this stigma are now in l4d2, and are here to unfortunately stay, any minor inconvenience and they'll throw a fit and leave or votekick someone. best you can do is find a subcommunity or friends to play versus with, or endure dramatic manchildren in public games

Originally posted by Witch:

Originally posted by Witch ~:

Forgot to mention that it was versus. In the short time I played I was genuine just baffled at how much it smelled like tryhard l*sers. Genuine never seen such a huge density of bitter people and I used to play tf2 and league. Why is it so bad?

the current gaming landscape has conditioned gamers to take pvp games 100x more seriously than they should, and as a result, people affected by this stigma are now in l4d2, and are here to unfortunately stay, any minor inconvenience and they'll throw a fit and leave or votekick someone. best you can do is find a subcommunity or friends to play versus with, or endure dramatic manchildren in public games

Damn shame that these weirdos are infecting old games that didnt have such a huge problem before.I hate the current gaming landscape so much.
also nice name

team based pvp is full of goblins

Originally posted by Witch ~:

Originally posted by Witch:

the current gaming landscape has conditioned gamers to take pvp games 100x more seriously than they should, and as a result, people affected by this stigma are now in l4d2, and are here to unfortunately stay, any minor inconvenience and they'll throw a fit and leave or votekick someone. best you can do is find a subcommunity or friends to play versus with, or endure dramatic manchildren in public games

Damn shame that these weirdos are infecting old games that didnt have such a huge problem before.I hate the current gaming landscape so much.
also nice name

thanks, nice name too

-Lag behind the team and constantly need to be rescued
-Waste time shopping for items that you won't need if you were keeping pace with the team and making progress towards the saferoom
-Have a (and I hate using this term) skill issue because you're new in a mode where people have been playing for years
-Get kicked
-Somehow it's the fault of everyone else for not carrying you, and not you for holding your entire team back by being literally more useless than default bots

Valve really needs to get on implementing a restriction on Versus. Make new players have to beat all 14 Campaigns on Expert or something so they'll be forced to learn. Hell, there's that unused tutorial_standards level and it's Versus variation, turn that into a full fledged tutorial, since lord knows new players aren't gonna use the tools provided to them in the Workshop.

Originally posted by Tsumugi:

-Lag behind the team and constantly need to be rescued
-Waste time shopping for items that you won't need if you were keeping pace with the team and making progress towards the saferoom
-Have a (and I hate using this team) skill issue because you're new in a mode where people have been playing for years
-Get kicked
-Somehow it's the fault of everyone else for not carrying you, and not you for holding your entire team back by being literally more useless than default bots

Valve really needs to get on implementing a restriction on Versus. Make new players have to beat all 14 Campaigns on Expert or something so they'll be forced to learn. Hell, there's that unused tutorial_standards level and it's Versus variation, turn that into a full fledged tutorial, since lord knows new players aren't gonna use the tools provided to them in the Workshop.

do NOT force people to beat cold stream on expert

Originally posted by Witch:

Originally posted by Tsumugi:

-Lag behind the team and constantly need to be rescued
-Waste time shopping for items that you won't need if you were keeping pace with the team and making progress towards the saferoom
-Have a (and I hate using this team) skill issue because you're new in a mode where people have been playing for years
-Get kicked
-Somehow it's the fault of everyone else for not carrying you, and not you for holding your entire team back by being literally more useless than default bots

Valve really needs to get on implementing a restriction on Versus. Make new players have to beat all 14 Campaigns on Expert or something so they'll be forced to learn. Hell, there's that unused tutorial_standards level and it's Versus variation, turn that into a full fledged tutorial, since lord knows new players aren't gonna use the tools provided to them in the Workshop.

do NOT force people to beat cold stream on expert :deaths:

I will bump it up to Expert Realism next time I join a match and see a score like this.
https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3408899287

Originally posted by Tsumugi:

-Lag behind the team and constantly need to be rescued
-Waste time shopping for items that you won't need if you were keeping pace with the team and making progress towards the saferoom
-Have a (and I hate using this team) skill issue because you're new in a mode where people have been playing for years
-Get kicked
-Somehow it's the fault of everyone else for not carrying you, and not you for holding your entire team back by being literally more useless than default bots

Valve really needs to get on implementing a restriction on Versus. Make new players have to beat all 14 Campaigns on Expert or something so they'll be forced to learn. Hell, there's that unused tutorial_standards level and it's Versus variation, turn that into a full fledged tutorial, since lord knows new players aren't gonna use the tools provided to them in the Workshop.

That nice person profile is exactly how I imagined these type of people would have. Thanks for proving it. And of course with some nice rambling

Originally posted by Witch ~:

Originally posted by Tsumugi:

-Lag behind the team and constantly need to be rescued
-Waste time shopping for items that you won't need if you were keeping pace with the team and making progress towards the saferoom
-Have a (and I hate using this team) skill issue because you're new in a mode where people have been playing for years
-Get kicked
-Somehow it's the fault of everyone else for not carrying you, and not you for holding your entire team back by being literally more useless than default bots

Valve really needs to get on implementing a restriction on Versus. Make new players have to beat all 14 Campaigns on Expert or something so they'll be forced to learn. Hell, there's that unused tutorial_standards level and it's Versus variation, turn that into a full fledged tutorial, since lord knows new players aren't gonna use the tools provided to them in the Workshop.

That weeb profile is exactly how I imagined these type of people would have. Thanks for proving it. And of course with some schizo rambling

"I'm going to ignore your post because I don't like having to try for anything in life. Everything should be given to me, ME ALL ME, I'M THE MOST IMPORTANT! EVERYONE SHOULD JUST CATER TO ME!"

Thank you for reaffirming the fact of the matter that people like you should not be playing Versus modes.

Originally posted by Witch:

do NOT force people to beat cold stream on expert :deaths:

expert realism for my next attempt

Originally posted by Witch ~:

Originally posted by Tsumugi:

-Lag behind the team and constantly need to be rescued
-Waste time shopping for items that you won't need if you were keeping pace with the team and making progress towards the saferoom
-Have a (and I hate using this team) skill issue because you're new in a mode where people have been playing for years
-Get kicked
-Somehow it's the fault of everyone else for not carrying you, and not you for holding your entire team back by being literally more useless than default bots

Valve really needs to get on implementing a restriction on Versus. Make new players have to beat all 14 Campaigns on Expert or something so they'll be forced to learn. Hell, there's that unused tutorial_standards level and it's Versus variation, turn that into a full fledged tutorial, since lord knows new players aren't gonna use the tools provided to them in the Workshop.

That nice person profile is exactly how I imagined these type of people would have. Thanks for proving it. And of course with some nice rambling

You of all people should not be talking. You have a dedicated section on your profile based around a furry gooner game.