What Remains of Edith Finch

What Remains of Edith Finch

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DorkToast 9 Feb, 2019 @ 9:27pm
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A terrifying new Edith Finch theory [Spoilers]
We know, already, that the game is told through the eyes of Edith, and that each of the vignettes are told through the eyes of each member of the family in some way. About 3/4 of the way through the game, Edith's determination at finding out the truth about the house is replaced with a fear that perhaps she should not be telling the story. So, what if...what if she has decided to change what we (representing Christopher reading the journal) experience, because she has realized something terrifying? What if...

What if Edie and Dawn are serial killers?

The basic premise

Edie is a serial killer, who kills and then enshrines her victims as trophies. She then involves her granddaughter Dawn to take over the "family business" in doing so.

I'm going to go ahead and build a timeline here for you.

- 1937: Molly is born and shortly after, Sven and Edie settle on the island and build the house.
- 1944: Barbara is born.
- 1947: Edie murders Molly by poisoning her. Edie builds a shrine to her victim in her room.
- 1950: Sam & Calvin born.
- 1952: Walter born.
- 1960: Edie murders Barbara and blames Barbara's death on Rich or an "unidentified home invader". Edie hides Barbara's body (minus one ear) in the basement and gives her room the shrine treatment.
- 1961: Edie murders Calvin by pushing him off a cliff.
- 1964: Edie murders Sven. She even takes a picture of it happening.
- 1968: Dawn is born.
- 1968: Edie murders Walter after he discovers Barbara's remains in the basement.
- 1969: Gus is born.
- 1976: Gregory is born.
- 1977: Dawn, as an emotional 11-year old dealing with a new baby and potentially-divorcing parents, drowns Gregory while Kay is distracted. Likely this is with Edie's coercion.
- 1982: Dawn murders Gus. Maybe she is acting out again because of Sam's new marriage. perhaps she's coerced again.
- 1983: Dawn murders her dad Sam by pushing him off a cliff.
- 1988: Lewis is born.
- 1992: Milton is born.
- 1999: Edith is born.
- 2003: Milton, while exploring the house's secret passages, discovers evidence of all of the murders, shares this info with Lewis, and runs away. In a panic, Dawn seals all the doors. Edie puts up peepholes so she can keep an eye on her trophies.
- 2000's: Lewis develops a drug habit to cope with his knowledge of the murders.
- 2010: Dawn murders Lewis after visiting the cannery ("Even as his mother pleaded with him...") and makes it look like a suicide.
- 2010: Afraid of being found out, Dawn makes plans to leave. But Edie will not leave her trophies behind.
- 2010: Edie commits suicide.
- 2016: Dawn dies. Perhaps the first member of the family to die of natural causes.
- 2017: Edith returns to the house, and during her exploration begins to suspect that her family members were murdered. She finds the most damning evidence in the basement, after which she flees.

Supporting evidence - Edie's sociopathic obsession with shrines

The nearly hundred-year-old lady was obsessed and had the means to keep these rooms alive. "I had a feeling Edie had spent a lot of time in this room," Edith mentions while in Molly's. Of course she did. She was obsessing over them. Take a look at her bookshelf and you'll see binders labeled "Shrine concepts" and such. because she was planning these. Why would she have a binder of information on putting together Mollie's shrine if she wasn't planning on making more shrines?

Of course, over time, she perfected her craft. Each trophy had a personalized lace doilie and a painted slab of tree trunk. Each one perfect and each one arranged for worship by the killer. Even her parakeets each got their own shrine, complete with a doilie. And of course, everyone got a tombstone in the cemetery.

Just look at that unfinished Lewis painting in Edie's room. Are you telling me that a 93 year-old woman was able to complete that in a week? Of course not. She had been working on it longer than that.

But then, as she got older, the murders became more difficult, so she trained a protege: Dawn. Dawn did the killing, Edie made the shrines.

One last note here: If you explore the house you'll find that Edie's door peephole has a year of death for herself. Who engraved it? Who sealed the door? Why, Edie did, herself, before committing suicide. One final shrine.

Edith as an unreliable narrator

All of the journals and diaries are all more fantastical than reality. Edith's journal is no different. And at a certain point...she just starts lying to cover the horror of the atrocities she is discovering.

One particular thing to note related to this is lights. We establish that the power was shut off the night they left. However, after you've gone to the basement you start to see electric lights turning on. These lights continue, up through the top parts of the house (like Edith's "letter lamp" in her room). This is because everything after the point where Edith enters the basement is a lie, made up by Edith after she discovers the horrible truth.

Walter

"But we see Walter was under the house later!" you cry. Alrighty, then answer me the following: Which is more plausible:

- A man lived for 30 years in a secret bunker under the house, or
- When Edith went downstairs and investigated the basement (the one Dawn told her never to go into), she discovered the damning evidence of the murders, and rather than pass that info on to her unborn child via the journal, gave Walter a more fantastical end.

We have already established Edith as an unreliable narrator. The second option makes far more sense. Also, why else would Dawn be "furious" about Edie mentioning a mole person living under the house? The last thing she wants is some investigator to poke around.

This is further supported by the train. There would never be a train running under private property like that, especially on beachfront property (which is terrible to build tracks on). the train never existed. Neither did the tracks. They were all made up in Edith's unreliable retelling of the story. (This is also the point, as I noted above, where Edith goes from determination about discovering the truth to fear about whether she should pass on her discoveries.)

Everything after this point in the game is probably entirely unreliable. perhaps there is more evidence in the upper rooms, but there's just no way to know for sure. Because Edith didn't show it to us.

In conclusion

Edie and Dawn weren't dealing with a family curse. They were the curse.
Last edited by DorkToast; 9 Feb, 2019 @ 9:41pm
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Last Hunter 11 Feb, 2019 @ 3:26pm 
boy this was brilliant. :o
Borrax 15 Feb, 2019 @ 1:11am 
the old house is literally the bad guy. it needs to eat people. it has freddy krueger/It like powers that work when you're awake. AKA the stories. that's why there are so many books

it's not schizophrenia. all the animals die too.

a bird and a deer are prevalent throughout the story, they seem malevolent

the old house MADE odin sail it to a new location

when you are molly, as the monster, the boat captain is sven. are you literally the monster?

concerning gregory, did the monster come up through the drain?

the old house farmed edith sr for her delicious children

how does it make barbara kill herself? its almost certainly wasnt the boyfriend. he is dead too. walter actually sees it?

it almost gets edith jr. why does only the window on our right light up?

the deaths are suicides. dawn, the only religious one, is immune to the old house and dies of natural causes

i think the new house is good. its built like a stairway to heaven for a reason. maybe kind of a ying yang situation? or just the monster rebuilding itself

milton is saved? or tricked?(i dont buy the theory that you have to play an unrelated game. it may be an easter egg) yellow is good

the brush is given to milton by a higher power?

milton almost looks identical to molly. Cat ears or Kings crown? All just a matter of perspective really. many finches have spots on their arms

your son is doomed, but is the monsters last meal

Edit: I'm rewatching a play through. It's SUPER obvious in retrospect. Milton was consumed or maybe he's like drew Barrymore in poltergeist. His wall drawings seem like warnings. The new house is circumstantial

Edit 2: the house isn't evil. Just a thing that needs to eat. It sees the finches the way a farmer sees pigs. Molly and Milton received better treatment like wilbur from Charlotte's Web. I'm ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up.

Barbara walks directly into the monsters mouth. Walter sees the monster without a mind trick. Walter knows he can leave the basement at anytime. Edie mocks him for this

The finches all die in the general direction of the old house.

The text you read is the old house tricking you just like most of the previous finches

As Gus, when you are flying the kite the top figure on the totem pole is gus; followed by Greg, Barb, and Sven

Hopefully Milton was kept as a pet
araisikewai 15 Feb, 2019 @ 3:06am 
If Walter died in 1968, who writes his letter in 2005? It might be a misdirection, but Edith would have recognize her mother's and great grandmother's writing. They're family and Edith was home-schooled, it's much easier to know their handwriting.
Unless he was locked under the basement by them at 1968 and died during an escape. But then, why would Edie draw attention to basement by giving out interview on the Mole-Man?
DorkToast 15 Feb, 2019 @ 6:34pm 
Originally posted by araisikewai:
If Walter died in 1968, who writes his letter in 2005?

No one. there is no letter. Edith made it up when writing in the journal Christopher is reading. Nothing in the bunker, or after the bunker, is real at all.
Parabola 15 Feb, 2019 @ 6:54pm 
God, I love this thread!
Toradino 25 Feb, 2019 @ 4:55pm 
Wow, really interesting theory! Thank you for sharing. :)
I believe you.
So the story Edith Senior tells to Edith Junior is a way to make her wonder about the old house and make her drown while she is on her way to it?
It's good to theorize about hidden stories in deep games but this one has a lot already to need another additional plot...
It's very clear that the game is simply about life and death: how death can be very natural around us and at same is a constant reminder for us to enjoy it as best as we can. All that with a lot of original 'weirdness'. It's a lot about lives itself than about the house or the deaths around it.

Besides... there is at least 2 suicides and 1 death by nature forces there I find very impossible to believe that someone can manipulate it. I think you are putting a lot more to the story than what is present or even needed.
Meeg 12 May, 2019 @ 6:07am 
I figured Edie was a vampire sapping the life from all these children :lltqjewel:

Seriously though... I think Edith says that Grandma Edie started painting Lewis's before his death. That's messed up given that they're all portraits of the person at the age they died.

I also never put it together that Molly died from poisoning.

ETA: what it actually says is "Lewis died a week before we left but Edie had already started to memorialize him". So it was after he died
Last edited by Meeg; 12 May, 2019 @ 7:33am
tenkday 15 Jul, 2019 @ 1:17pm 
Clearly it was the whale in the bathtub killing everyone. I'd type out the supporting evidence but don't have time.
Corky 27 Jun, 2020 @ 11:08am 
@Dorktoast, this is better than the story in the game tbh.
Space Pirate Orez 29 Aug, 2020 @ 10:15pm 
Originally posted by tenkday:
Clearly it was the whale in the bathtub killing everyone. I'd type out the supporting evidence but don't have time.

You have the time for "supporting evidence" now buddy?
I like it, but I don't think it explains everything. But yes, Edie gives weird vibes thoughout the game, even perhaps as a witch.
ashez2ashes 5 Nov, 2020 @ 7:33am 
Granmda was an old ones worshipper. There was a King in Yellow book on the bookshelf. The house is a rift in space and time to Carcosa.
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